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    Rules Question: Rhythm Blade Weapon

    I was reviewing all 3 of MetaVoid's characters today.

    One common thing I noticed was that he was using a Rhythm blade weapon in his off hand to take a shield bonus to AC and Reflex, but from what I've seen from threads like this one. There is somewhat of a consensus the Rhythm blade only improves and existing shield bonus, but does not provide one on its own in absence of another shield bonus. So if you don't have something like a weapon with the defensive property, or the two-weapon defense feat or anything else that provides a shield bonus to AC and/or Reflex, the Rhythm Blade does nothing.

    I wanted some judges to weigh in as to how this weapon will work in L4W, since it appears that it would have a significant impact on MetaVoid's characters.

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    Defensive doesn't grant a shield bonus, so Rhythm Blade doesn't interact with it either. Refer Metavoid to the Shielding enchantment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WEContact View Post
    Defensive doesn't grant a shield bonus, so Rhythm Blade doesn't interact with it either. Refer Metavoid to the Shielding enchantment.
    You're correct. I was just trying to name things off the top of my head and couldn't keep them straight.

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    That is the first time I ever heard that it works that way. I always thought Rhythm Blade was to be used instead of a shield for dual wielders and those who don't use shields (and it would not stack with a shield). The bard guide and fighter guide seem to agree with that.
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    I'd say neither of those guides specify that they work one way or another, only that they are valid considerations for weapons. The fighter guide even points out tempest fighters as specifically benefiting, and tempest fighters get two-weapon defense for free.

    As for intent, the Rhythm Blade was intended to bear paired with the other weapon of the Blade Dancer's Regalia, the Harmony Blade. The item set was designed for two-weapon rangers (given its 5 piece set bonus) who most likely will have taken two-weapon defense.

    I somehow doubt the intent was to have a light shield that anyone can use without spending a feat for what is a paltry amount of gold even at the upper end of heroic tier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Son of Meepo View Post
    I'd say neither of those guides specify that they work one way or another, only that they are valid considerations for weapons. The fighter guide even points out tempest fighters as specifically benefiting, and tempest fighters get two-weapon defense for free.

    As for intent, the Rhythm Blade was intended to bear paired with the other weapon of the Blade Dancer's Regalia, the Harmony Blade. The item set was designed for two-weapon rangers (given its 5 piece set bonus) who most likely will have taken two-weapon defense.

    I somehow doubt the intent was to have a light shield that anyone can use without spending a feat for what is a paltry amount of gold even at the upper end of heroic tier.
    Yeah I forgot about the shield bonus with two-weapon defense. Now that I actually look at the item description I think the thread you pointed out is right as well as your interpretation.

    Edit: Did you get the items recently Metavoid or were they on your characters when they had past approvals?
    Last edited by Luinnar; Sunday, 18th December, 2011 at 01:19 AM.
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