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Tuesday, 20th December, 2011, 01:49 AM #31
Guide (Lvl 11)
Also reminds me of Reagan's SDI ("Strategic Defense Initiative"): advanced technology.
I agree that the first example of text for the new release is more evocative.
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Tuesday, 20th December, 2011, 01:53 AM #32
The Great Druid (Lvl 17)
op-ed I read on CNN a little while ago, stating that although most Americans think that their country is exceptional, there's a sharp divide between the political right and left over just what it is that makes America exceptional.
It's an interesting piece, and seems to underscore the reason why some people were offended by the flavor text for this game.
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Tuesday, 20th December, 2011, 02:48 AM #33
Acolyte (Lvl 2)
I hate the original version of the FFG blurb text because, as GreyLord pointed out, it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. You've got an America that's developed some terrifying new weapon capable of wiping out whole nations, but when the world decides to team up and neutralize America, for some reason America doesn't just use their super weapon to obliterate its enemies. Where's the logic in that?
The second version doesn't make much sense either. It's hard to imagine everyone deciding to attack America over a missile defense system. Still, I can ignore the rubbish premise as long as the game is fun in actual play.
I actually owned the original version back in the day, but only played it a couple of times because it took too long to finish (me being only about 12 at the time). I wonder what I'd think if I tried it now. I'll have to give this new version a look.
Tuesday, 20th December, 2011, 02:50 AM #34
Waghalter (Lvl 7)
Maybe the nature of he weapon is explained in the rules.
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Tuesday, 20th December, 2011, 03:11 AM #35
Magsman (Lvl 14)
I'm having trouble believing the first blurb wasn't made intentionally to be controversial. FFG is not stupid and wouldn't put a blurb like out that unvetted. They damn well wanted to stir the pot.
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Tuesday, 20th December, 2011, 03:32 AM #36
Myrmidon (Lvl 10)
I want to be The United States of America.
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Tuesday, 20th December, 2011, 04:14 AM #37
Spellbinder (Lvl 16)
Tuesday, 20th December, 2011, 04:20 AM #38
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Lots of smart posts, here.
An offended reaction to the original text sort of puts me in mind to the offended reactionsof people to the Onion story about the Abortionplex.
There are people who are prepared to be offended by anything.
I think Fred Clark over at Slacktivist has some really good points about this kind of manufactured outrage (warning: lefty fundamentalist christian blog links!). This is the central idea, but I think the thing's well worth reading:
So, yeah, not so much actually offensive as just a convenient target for the manufactured outrage of American politics.Originally Posted by Fred Clark
It's probably smart to change the blurb, as all it would take is some media charlatan or small, influential group to decide this was the rally point dou jour and really hit FFG harder than it probably deserves, but the fact that it is necessary to change the blurb makes me a sad panda.
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Tuesday, 20th December, 2011, 06:03 AM #39
Enchanter (Lvl 12)
I encourage any Americans who think that the ordinary people would prevent the government from doing this sort of thing to take a very close look at what the people seem to be about to allow their government to do right now. Fortress America is a game, Battlefield America is real life (piece is by former CIA analyst Ray McGovern).
It may even be the case that it would never do that sort of thing. But the assumption that what is stopping it is the people of America is naive in the extreme, given current circumstances.
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Tuesday, 20th December, 2011, 06:04 AM #40
Myrmidon (Lvl 10)
To me it sounds more like the plot from a North Korean cartoon.
Oh, for those who don't know:
This is the cartoon I was referencing.
(The U.S. are the evil looking wolves with the big laser airships)
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNR4kR1uC-w]North Korea Animation 5-1 - YouTube[/ame]
Come to think of it, the cartoon would make a better game synopsis.
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