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Saturday, 21st January, 2012, 01:40 PM #201
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Saturday, 21st January, 2012, 07:29 PM #202
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Saturday, 21st January, 2012, 08:09 PM #203
Minor Trickster (Lvl 4)
I think this is a great idea. I still have my 1E core books so I don't really need these, but they'd make a nice gift...
Saturday, 21st January, 2012, 08:23 PM #204
Enchanter (Lvl 12)
Great idea, too bad WotC are once again ignoring their non-American customer base.
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Saturday, 21st January, 2012, 11:38 PM #205
Lama (Lvl 13)
I hope this is the start of more reprints.
I also hope that t's the start of WoTC taking a more keen interest in how to keep older media alive and make money off of it.
It's for a good cause so I'll give the prices a m'eh.
Hopefully we see something similiar done for Dave.
Sunday, 22nd January, 2012, 12:42 AM #206
Acolyte (Lvl 2)
I am curious what the new book covers will look like. What is being shown appears to be what the first inner page will look like, as there are no book titles on the pic at all. As these books are 3 months out, it is safe to assume that they have arrived/soon will be arriving from the printers, and so the covers should be set. I want to see the covers before ordering.
Sunday, 22nd January, 2012, 12:53 AM #207
The Great Druid (Lvl 17)
wotcs printers are in the US, I think. so the turn around could be shorter
Sunday, 22nd January, 2012, 03:37 AM #208
Enchanter (Lvl 12)
Actually the printers are overseas.
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Sunday, 22nd January, 2012, 06:37 AM #209
I know WotC has, in the past, done better by Arneson than Gygax and TSR did. But in this particular instance, Arneson is being slighted. Gygax and his "innovative ideas" are being credited for something that can either be (a) credited exclusively to Arneson's originality or (b) both of them as a collective effort (depending on how you choose to interpret the history), but never to Gygax exclusively. (Assuming, of course, that one is paying any attention to the actual facts.)
Sunday, 22nd January, 2012, 12:27 PM #210
I agree that WoTC has been better in giving credit to Arneson. However, I also think a lot of people overstate Arneson's involvement. You want to know the reason people see Gygax as more important than Arneson?
Gary Did More. Simple as that.
Gygax started GenCon, Gygax with Don Kaye actually founded TSR, he quit his Insurance day job for a risk while Dave remained employed. Gygax was the very prolific writer, contributing not just the OD&D ruleset, but AD&D, Greyhawk, numerous classic modules, and also worked hard in his executive roles.
Plus, he did more after he was gone from TSR--creating two other games, and was more involved with fan interaction in the last decade of his life. Arneson had numerous opportunities post TSR to establish his name. I do not believe his failure to do so was just because "Gygax had the publicity machine".
The primary reason Gygax gets remembered more--he wrote more and those of us who care about the writers and writing remember him.
I agree that Arneson should get credit where it is due. And I think he did get the rights he deserved in his legal battles. But I think people need to stop seeing them as perfect equals. If the fans remember Gygax more than Arneson, it's simply because Gygax did more directly for the development of the D&D game and more people loved and remembered Gygax's writing. At some point, if every time you mention Gygax without Arneson, somebody yells "don't forget Arneson", it comes across as just a little bit petty.
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