I'm really glad that we are starting to see some concrete details of what to expect. I like most of what I see.
Seminar Transcript - Class Design: From Assassins to Wizards
Fanaelialae
Legend
Not entirely what I was expecting, but definitely no deal breakers! I like what I'm hearing.
That's true of any edition change. If you're happy with the game you're playing now, why switch to something new? Unless you have to have the newest version of something to be happy.
As a happy pathfinder player I don't see a reason to switch.
Vyvyan Basterd
Adventurer
The first bit of news that makes me a sad panda.
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gourdcaptain
First Post
...Uh, Linear Warrior Quadratic Wizards ISN'T ABOUT DAMAGE. Evocation doesn't even do that much overall damage in 3.Xe. The problem is more when the Wizard has stuff like Dominate Person available, which one hit of which on the Fighter and he has a new minion to add to his DPR. (And we know that kind of stuff is around with the mention of Charm Person earlier.)
Also, the mention of the Fighter being 100% DPR makes me kinda sad as someone who likes Fighters who emphasize combat manuvers. Also, does this make the Barbarian 120% damage or so?
FitzTheRuke
Legend
Looks like you missed Illusionist, but from the sound of it, we might see Psion instead or as well.
I really thought they'd go for less classes and more subclasses/builds, but it's no bid deal to me either way.
Still sounds good to me. Can't wait to try it.
I really like the lower "old school" damage expressions and softer to-hit curve.
I really thought they'd go for less classes and more subclasses/builds, but it's no bid deal to me either way.
Still sounds good to me. Can't wait to try it.
I really like the lower "old school" damage expressions and softer to-hit curve.
berenmir
First Post
TerraDave
5ever, or until 2024
Yes, psion was also mentioned, as was wild talents.
And of course we all remember that psionics was in the original PHB.
Also, gourdcaptain
So for example, if your fighter goes up a level and would normally get some bonus damage or a bonus to hit, or something simple, then maybe instead you could choose to replace that with an option or options that allow you to do some cool moves that allow you to push people around, or protect your allies a bit more, or control the battlefield a little more.
FitzTheRuke
Legend
...Uh, Linear Warrior Quadratic Wizards ISN'T ABOUT DAMAGE. Evocation doesn't even do that much overall damage in 3.Xe. The problem is more when the Wizard has stuff like Dominate Person available, which one hit of which on the Fighter and he has a new minion to add to his DPR. (And we know that kind of stuff is around with the mention of Charm Person earlier.)
Also, the mention of the Fighter being 100% DPR makes me kinda sad as someone who likes Fighters who emphasize combat manuvers. Also, does this make the Barbarian 120% damage or so?
I think you missed a big chunk of what they were saying. They are using damage output as part of their balancing math, so something like Dominate Person would come at the expense of an equivalent explosive invocation.
Ditto for the fighter DPR. They said you could chose combat maneuvers in lieu of damage buffs to create a controller-type fighter over a DPR fighter.
Barbarians probably trade off some defensive or party-helping abilities for extra damage.
Most of your problems seem to be covered.
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