D&D 5E D&D Next Design Goals (Article)

Thaumaturge

Wandering. Not lost. (He/they)

• Apr 9, 2012

• #1

WotC just posted a Mike Mearls article here. It's an interesting look at the core target they are aiming for.

The money quote for me is, "if the math works but the game doesn't feel like D&D, we've failed."

Thaumaturge.

 

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K

Kynn

Adventurer

• Apr 9, 2012

• #2

It seems to be, at this time, mostly a content-free column. It might have meant something back three months ago, but it didn't really say anything revealing -- or really worth reading.

 

CasvalRemDeikun

Adventurer

• Apr 9, 2012

• #3

We had a game that felt like D&D and had the math RIGHT, and they killed it.

The argument they are making is as illuminating about the design process as "I like to call it Passive Perception" was.

 

YRUSirius

First Post

• Apr 9, 2012

• #4

I can't agree with you here. This article shines even more light on their very high level design goals. It's always illuminating reading how they communicate between themselves.

-YRUSirius

 

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Herremann the Wise

First Post

• Apr 9, 2012

• #5

CasvalRemDeikun said:

We had a game that felt like D&D and had the math RIGHT, and they killed it.

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Is 4e dead? Is the math right... finally? Did 4e "feel" like D&D to a big slice of their previous (and now Paizo) customers?
You provide answers to questions that would not seem universally accepted.

CasvalRemDeikun said:

The argument they are making is as illuminating about the design process as "I like to call it Passive Perception" was.

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You're not a fan of Monte huh? WotC go and start making a new edition to "reunify" a divided fanbase and you don't want to buy into it? You don't think Mearls, Schwalb and Co. can tame Monte's wicked pre-4e ways? If so, you're really painting yourself into a vicious corner that half of my playing group (the ones who hate 4e) could directly identify with.

Best Regards
Herremann the Wise

 

CasvalRemDeikun

Adventurer

• Apr 9, 2012

• #6

Herremann the Wise said:

Is 4e dead? Is the math right... finally? Did 4e "feel" like D&D to a big slice of their previous (and now Paizo) customers?
You provide answers to questions that would not seem universally accepted.

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Umm, 'grats on proving my point. The point I was making is that "Feels like D&D" is 100% subjective.

You're not a fan of Monte huh? WotC go and start making a new edition to "reunify" a divided fanbase and you don't want to buy into it? You don't think Mearls, Schwalb and Co. can tame Monte's wicked pre-4e ways? If so, you're really painting yourself into a vicious corner that half of my playing group (the ones who hate 4e) could directly identify with.

Best Regards
Herremann the Wise

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I wouldn't have as much of a problem with Monte if he showed the least bit of indication he has actually cracked the cover of the 4E PHB or even looked at a 4E character sheet. The Passive Perception thing irritates me because it is pretty disingenous of Mike Mearls to claim they want to reuinify the player base when they install a guy as lead designer that doesn't know the first thing about one of the things they are trying to unify. Monte is a good guy, he is actually from about sixty miles from where my dad grew up, but if he wants to be a part of the grand reunification, he needs to put a little more effort into it. A surgeon that is going to reattach both arms and both legs to a patient, but doesn't know the first thing about the left arm, SHOULD PROBABLY LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT THE LEFT ARM.

 

Argyle King

Legend

• Apr 9, 2012

• #7

so... Reunification

 

Shemeska

Adventurer

• Apr 9, 2012

• #8

Interesting.

 

Lanefan

Victoria Rules

• Apr 9, 2012

• #9

CasvalRemDeikun said:

We had a game that felt like D&D and had the math RIGHT, and they killed it.

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I still have a game that feels like D&D and - wisely - doesn't really care too much about the math.

To shred some metaphors: if the math is balanced on a razor's edge that razor will eventually slice the system to ribbons.

Lanefan

 

Yora

Legend

• Apr 9, 2012

• #10

But THAC0 really is unneccesary convoluted. Making it simple addition is much easier.