Awfully Alarmed About Armour

YRUSirius

First Post

• Jun 9, 2012

• #91

But do high Dex characters really need the same AC? They'll have a higher Dex which is a very good saving throw. And they'll have +5 feet speed in comparison to characters in heavy armor and might not have disadvantage on checks to hide and move silently. There needs to be a trade off for those things. 1 AC point difference seems pretty balanced to me.

-YRUSirius

 

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Derren

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• Jun 9, 2012

• #92

UngeheuerLich said:

to give an additional benefit over high dexterity without making high dex characters unviable.

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Why would it make high dex characters unviable when characters who do not wear armor are disadvantaged when standing on the frontline?

Normally, classes who wear light armor are not the ones who are supposed to stand toe to toe with the enemy (rogues, archers, wizards). And why should high dex characters not also wear the best armor they can when they expect heavy combat? Just because someone wears full plate it doesn't mean that dexterity doesn't also help avoiding blows.

 

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Votan

Explorer

• Jun 9, 2012

• #93

Derren said:

Why would it make high dex characters unviable when characters who do not wear armor are disadvantaged when standing on the frontline?

Normally, classes who wear light armor are not the ones who are supposed to stand toe to toe with the enemy (rogues, archers, wizards). And why should high dex characters not also wear the best armor they can when they expect heavy combat? Just because someone wears full plate it doesn't mean that dexterity doesn't also help avoiding blows.

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Exactly. In actual battle, everyone wears the best armor that they can find unless they need the mobility. Either for range of motion (archers) or long periods of fast movement (skirmishers).

Light fighters should be viable, but it would be odd if they were vastly more effective than heavy fighters.

 

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Derren

Hero

• Jun 9, 2012

• #94

Votan said:

Light fighters should be viable, but it would be odd if they were vastly more effective than heavy fighters.

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To clarify, they should be viable in their own role (skirmisher, etc.) but not in the role of a "traditional" front line fighter.

 

YRUSirius

First Post

• Jun 9, 2012

• #95

Yeah, that's why they have +5 feet speed, better dex saving throws, better hiding capabilities etc.

-YRUSirius

 

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Njall

Explorer

• Jun 9, 2012

• #96

YRUSirius said:

Yeah, that's why they have +5 feet speed, better dex saving throws, better hiding capabilities etc.

-YRUSirius

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This is a function of higher dexterity, it's got nothing to do with light armor.
It's like saying that, since you're wearing heavy armor, and you're free to put your 18 elsewhere, say constitution, heavy armor provides a bonus to con saving throws and hit points.

 

YRUSirius

First Post

• Jun 9, 2012

• #97

And?

These are balancing factors you need to account for.

-YRUSirius

 

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Votan

Explorer

• Jun 9, 2012

• #98

This seemed on topic:

HEMA Alliance Forum • View topic - Quarterstaff and the Armoured Man.

 

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Njall

Explorer

• Jun 9, 2012

• #99

YRUSirius said:

And?

These are balancing factors you need to account for.

-YRUSirius

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If they are, then heavy armor dude ( no need for high dex, same AC+More HP+higher con based saving throws ) has the upper hand anyway in terms of staying power, even if their AC is even.

 

YRUSirius

First Post

• Jun 9, 2012

• #100

Cool, then we might not even need DR, +temp hp, etc.

-YRUSirius