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Friday, 24th August, 2012, 02:35 PM #11
Orcus on an Off-Day (Lvl 22)
And what I'm saying is that calling people "fanboys" makes you look like a dismissive jerk. Repetition, and the pot/kettle thing make you look like a knowing and willful jerk.
Whatever you actually are, you're not presenting yourself in a good light. Do you wish to continue to look like a jerk to the moderating staff? Then please keep on using that word. If you don't, perhaps you should change your approach to referring to folks who like stuff you're not into.
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Friday, 24th August, 2012, 06:00 PM #12
The Great Druid (Lvl 17)
But yes, that is pretty useless, I don't picture drow as partiers, they are supposed to be the ultimate evil race in the FR, ones that the parents tell their kids about if they don't listen. Their parties may be like sacrifices to Lloth or some other stuff like that.
Sunday, 26th August, 2012, 09:34 PM #13
Minor Trickster (Lvl 4)
Sunday, 26th August, 2012, 10:55 PM #14
Myrmidon (Lvl 10)
Don't give me that "you can use it for whatever you want". I'd be all for this if it wasnt basically a big slap in the face to 4th edition consumers. I understand why they did it business wise, but what a way to treat your 4th edition customers. There's NO reason that all of this material couldn't have been supplemented with 4th edition crunch, they just do not want to support the system any more ... clearly.
Monday, 27th August, 2012, 02:01 PM #15
Gallant (Lvl 3)
Yeah, and with 5E/DnD Next not due out until at least 2014, they could at least keep producing products for the current game instead of giving 4E fans the "edition neutral cold shoulder".
I have all the other Menzoberranzan books, and none of them are edition neutral, why should 4E not get one?
This book, to me at least, is not very useful, especially without the crunch for the traditional drow items and stats for the bigger members of the houses.
Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can.
Tuesday, 28th August, 2012, 07:27 AM #16
Waghalter (Lvl 7)
Though it is systems neutral it still had information for the plague realms time period. It had relevant sections to each time period, and described what was happening in Menzo, and with the drow houses for each of them where relevant.
The lack of 4e crunch is a strength of this book, and shows a lot of promise for the sundering and 5e Forgotten Realms.
Tuesday, 28th August, 2012, 07:31 AM #17
Waghalter (Lvl 7)
This book is very high quality, with good Forgotten Realms information. IT also preserves space by not including the crunch of 4e. There will be crunch released for it via DDI which is the way it should be.
You get your 4e crunch through DDI, and I get a useful book out of it that Ican use with AD&D or Pathfinder.
Its a WIN for Wizards, and they got me at least to start buying products from them again.
Wednesday, 29th August, 2012, 12:34 PM #18
Gallant (Lvl 3)
Are the house creation and worth system rules any good?
About 'editionlessness': I guess there *will* be a line of editionless books and Menzo is just the beginning.
A fan of D&D (especially the Fair Folk) from Poland.
Wednesday, 29th August, 2012, 02:22 PM #19
Novice (Lvl 1)
Can anyone elaborate on how much new info it contributes compared to 2nd ed's and 3.5's Drow of the Underdark's? Or is it simply a rehash with some new House and player mechanics?
Wednesday, 29th August, 2012, 02:53 PM #20
Enchanter (Lvl 12)
Frankly, as a player of multiple systems, I like the system-neutral approach (although I wouldn't mind seeing some crunch presented somewhere). I hope to see more of them.
I don't happen to have any interest in the subject matter of this particular product (and I didn't in the 2e days, either). But the format? Assuming the content is quality, the format is useful to me.
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