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    Anyone seen the pilot yet? If so, what are your thoughts?

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    It's available as a preview via Hulu.

    There's clunky exposition ("do you want to die out there in the dangerous wilderness, like your mother did?!"), mediocre acting (maybe the look-at-me-I'm-a-nerd guy will grow on me), some logical inconsistencies -- they raise their own food, but the nerd guy is 40 pounds overweight -- and a lot of stuff hasn't decayed like it probably ought to have. Who makes all these synthetic blend shirts and pleather jackets?

    Eh, it's not crap. I mean, most sci-fi pilots suck anyway, so I'll give it a shot to see if it gets its feet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RangerWickett View Post
    and a lot of stuff hasn't decayed like it probably ought to have. Who makes all these synthetic blend shirts and pleather jackets?
    Pleather is plastic. Plastic lives forever. Synthetics will last longer than synthetic blends, but the blends will last longer than natural fibers. And any of them can last for decades with care, or if just kept dry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbran View Post
    Pleather is plastic.
    Well, it's not very good plastic. In practical terms, there should be more clothes with holes and rips. Then again, you'd see guys with beards far outnumber guys without them, and you'd see some women sporting them as well.

    But when it comes to post-acopalyptic America and deserted islands and fantasy worlds supposedly based on the medieval era, audiences want to have their cake and eat it too. They want a fantasy that serves up these rugged, harsh worlds, but they still want attractive and relatively clean characters.

    So, your post-apocalypse hero has perpetual five o'clock shadow, and your post-apocalyptic heroine might have a rogue strand of flaxen hair hanging down across one of her adorably grease-smugged cheeks.

    Because, after all, if it was just a bunch of ugly people struggling and suffering, who'd care?

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    If it's magic, then they'd better not make the LOST mistake by teasing viewers into thinking there's a rational scientific explanation.
    This is an expectation folks had towards Lost I never could understand, both while and after it aired. Given what we saw of the island, what would possibly justify the words "rational" and "scientific"? Would an LHC explosion rippling backwards through time be rational and scientific? Would the good ol' nanotechnology chestnut be rational and scientific? Treating the island as a terrestrial phenomenon--a convergence point for natural forces--seems about as good an explanation as any science experiment gone awry.

    When it comes to these big mystery events, there aren't infinite options. There's the otherworldly and the pseudo-scientific That's about it.
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    I believe it was the show creators explicitly stating, 'Yes, there is a scientific explanation for everything weird on the island.'

    Pseudo-science, maybe.

    Personally, I think they just muffed the later seasons by not having a good narrative arc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felon View Post
    Well, it's not very good plastic. In practical terms, there should be more clothes with holes and rips. Then again, you'd see guys with beards far outnumber guys without them, and you'd see some women sporting them as well.

    But when it comes to post-acopalyptic America and deserted islands and fantasy worlds supposedly based on the medieval era, audiences want to have their cake and eat it too. They want a fantasy that serves up these rugged, harsh worlds, but they still want attractive and relatively clean characters.

    So, your post-apocalypse hero has perpetual five o'clock shadow, and your post-apocalyptic heroine might have a rogue strand of flaxen hair hanging down across one of her adorably grease-smugged cheeks.

    Because, after all, if it was just a bunch of ugly people struggling and suffering, who'd care?

    We need a Blair Witch-style indy film cast in that manner just to see what would happen. Besides, round these parts we refer to "just a bunch of ugly people struggling and suffering" as Thanksgiving dinner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felon View Post
    They want a fantasy that serves up these rugged, harsh worlds, but they still want attractive and relatively clean characters.
    Who are 'they'?
    I've found this is mostly a feature of U.S. TV shows, only. Apparently, it's not acceptable for the U.S. public to have a show featuring 'ugly' or 'unclean' characters.

    It's one of the reasons I couldn't ever enjoy any of the U.S. Fantasy shows: Conan, Xena, Sindbad, etc., etc. It just annoys me to see the 'heroes' in their clean and obviously unworn garb rolling in the dirt only to get up and be just as immaculate as they were before.

    Just compare the British 'Robin of Sherwood' show from 1986 with the U.S. 'Robin Hood' show 20 years later. It's a world of a difference. The British show has its fair share of the ugly and dirty and it's a much better show for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RangerWickett View Post
    It's available as a preview via Hulu.

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    I saw it a few days ago, and was decidedly ambivalent about it.

    The Bad:

    • I'm not sure if it's the script, the actress, or both, but the main girl (Charlie IIRC) was by far the weakest link.
    • I called the entire ending of the episode in the first ten minutes - not a good thing.
    • The writing overall was mediocre, and definitely needs to step up a notch.
    • It suffers from the same issue Lost did - telling us background, instead of showing us background (see: the dorky guy, who reminds me way too much of Hurley).
    • There was one glaring character issue: the Uncle, deliberately hiding out, readily gives up his identity to some random group of people? Really?
    • I absolutely do not care about teenage romance angst.



    The Good:

    • Despite the script, I thought the actors did a relatively decent job with their characters (except the main actress).
    • Characterization was pretty consistent except for the glaring fault above. For example, [spoiler]Charlie trusts the guy because she's still relatively innocent, established earlier[spoiler]. Some of it seems dumb, but that's only because it's viewed through the viewer's lens.
    • The action scenes were generally well done, at least for television.



    As an aside, I don't consider the central premise to be a bad thing. It's a bit dumb, granted, but it's the buy-in for the show. If you can't suspend your disbelief, there's no point to even watching.


    Anyway, based on the pilot I'll give it my usual amount of time (six episodes) to win me over. I can't in all honestly see that really happening based on the lead and the writing, but I'm not willing to write off the good parts for the bad.

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