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Tuesday, 25th September, 2012, 06:38 PM #11
Gallant (Lvl 3)
I kind of took that as an extension of their character. Like, they base their structure on who can eat the most, so naturally, some of them will gorge themselves, just to try to "win" against other hill giants. Imagine a little kid at dinner who stuffs his mouth so full he can barely breath just to impress his parents. These giants can eat a pig in one bite, and it's a perfect symbol of both their stupidity and their gluttony. Hill giants are dumb. That's kind of their thing.
It could also have been, as you suggested, hyperbole. *shrug*
Tuesday, 25th September, 2012, 06:45 PM #12
Magsman (Lvl 14)
Tuesday, 25th September, 2012, 07:36 PM #13
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Hill giant at the dinner table:
A smaller pig in one bite...but at least 3 for the cow.
Tuesday, 25th September, 2012, 08:06 PM #14
Gallant (Lvl 3)
Had to attach the image, but it seems to be pretty good proof. I think this giant could get the pig in his mouth, if he were really motivated.
Tuesday, 25th September, 2012, 09:14 PM #15
Magsman (Lvl 14)
Anyway, I hate to resort to math on this, but if a hill giant is twice the height of a human with 8-10 times a human's mass, then it's hard to see a hill giant eating more than 20-30 pounds of food in a sitting. Yes, that's a whole suckling pig eaten by a single giant, but it's a long way away from eating a cow in three bites.
Tuesday, 25th September, 2012, 10:16 PM #16
Enchanter (Lvl 12)
It's totally ridiculous.
I suspect there is a connection between running combat in an abstract board-game style and a desire for bigger and bigger monsters. When you're actually imagining what's occurring in your mind's eye, 12-18ft tall Giants are plenty epic enough.
Tuesday, 25th September, 2012, 11:55 PM #17
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Wednesday, 26th September, 2012, 04:52 PM #18
Superhero (Lvl 15)
This article in the series was the best one yet. Very good across the board. I have some notes, just niggling details really, but I thought these guys came across as the best interpretation so far.
Wednesday, 26th September, 2012, 05:50 PM #19
Guide (Lvl 11)
I can't believe you're arguing about the size of a cow
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Wednesday, 26th September, 2012, 09:48 PM #20
Defender (Lvl 8)
Here's my problem, I read the article yesterday and I've now slept on it and I can't tell you which giant is at the top and which is #2 . Outside of stone giants throw rocks and hill giants are big and dumb (and frost = cold and fire = fire) I know and remember very little about the article or indeed their new scope for the giants.
This problem isn't just with the new interpretation though, I've been playing for YEARS and I still don't know the difference between cloud and storm, or why I would use one more than another.
Are giants supposed to be elementally? If so shouldn't they all resemble their elements MORE closely?
Let me relate this to dragons, it is like they have the red dragon, the green dragon, the gold dragon, the purple dragon, a couple of 4e's drakes and a wyvern and they're giving me hierarchy information on them. It seems like they are missing the mark, at least in my opinion.
I wouldn't use any of these giants as the "fee-fi-fo-fum" type giants because they aren't big enough. 22 feet being the TALLEST. Where do I find ones that have hands as big as a person? Huge is the common size we're getting now, same as before IIRC but that is too homogeneous.
Yes I could have vikings killing frost giants again, if I had vikings or enough frost giants, but they really miss the point. Ever wonder if the viking tales talked of frost giants because they lived in a colder environment than other tales? Does cold environment now equate to cold immunity? Where did the summoning blizzards and avalanches come from. I like it but I don't get it. Are they supposed to be creatures of the elements or creatures who USE the elements to their favour? It seems like no matter their choice they're currently stuck in an odd middle ground.
My preference BTW would be to keep the elemental flavour but not have them be creatures of those elements. Just like I would make dragons who can spit fire but not necessarily dragons COMPOSED of fire.
EDIT: At least we with dragons we know there are the scholar dragons, the brooding dragons, the greedy dragons, the maniacally evil ones. With giants we have the warrior ones, the aloof warrior ones, the get off my grass warrior ones and the hungry ones.
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