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Thread: Oh Hai Katana!
Thursday, 11th October, 2012, 02:22 AM #61
Grandmaster of Flowers (Lvl 18)
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Thursday, 11th October, 2012, 05:41 AM #62
Enchanter (Lvl 12)
Thursday, 11th October, 2012, 08:49 AM #63
Orcus on an Off-Day (Lvl 22)
The 'punch-dagger' pattern has seen some use in the west, too. Combined with a shield and additional projections in the quixotic 'lantern shield,' for instance.The Katara, a "punching dual-edged shortsword" very usefull for stabbing and parrying... Some versions even had a shield integrated that provided further protection for the hand and wrist.
And the former is Indian and the latter Chinese, so neither is quite unique, I suppose. But they are pretty odd weapons.The Chakram, a bladed steel ring, it is a throwing weapon ... The Wind and Fire Wheels. Like a melee chakram, but crazier, it has multiple hooks and blades that allow to trip and disarm, but also to parry, it can be used to either pierce or slash.
Thursday, 11th October, 2012, 11:53 AM #64
Guide (Lvl 11)
Thursday, 11th October, 2012, 02:44 PM #65
If you want DnD core to be European/Mediterranean-based: don't use the name katana (because it is specific to a culture that is not European/Mediterranean-based)
If you want DnD core to be generic: don't use the name katana (since it is very specific to a culture)
Are we now all in agreement to get rid of the name? Not that we actually make any of the decisions.
Thursday, 11th October, 2012, 06:08 PM #66
I remember an old Dragon had the Basilard (punching short sword, basically).
Thursday, 11th October, 2012, 06:22 PM #67
Defender (Lvl 8)
I know this will convince no one, but I suppose I just want to throw out my two coppers.
I want them to have a katana in the phb, because some kid will be flipping through the book somewhere and see the katana, and think, "man I totally want to play this game! Katanas and ninjas and samurai are awesome!" No kids will get so excited about a "curved long sword". And that, to me, makes it worth the infinitesimal hassle of renaming the weapon for a western-themed game.
Last edited by slobster; Thursday, 11th October, 2012 at 07:08 PM.
Thursday, 11th October, 2012, 07:15 PM #68
Slob, that kid probably never met Brian's cousin.
When I think of Katana one of two things come to mind:
Some Japanese dude who shaves the top of his head, walks bow-legged, and never smiles.
A pale guy with a receding hairline, a ponytail, and a neckbeard.
But I see your point. If the katana brings in new players that otherwise would not play if there wasn't one, I will cede the field.
Thursday, 11th October, 2012, 07:18 PM #69
Enchanter (Lvl 12)
Interesting aside, the book I'm reading currently includes a samurai currently fighting a European warrior monk, in Europe in an area roughly around Poland, near as I can tell, in or around 1300.
How did he get there? He's an alcoholic ronin, living in Korea when it's overrun by the Mongol Empire. His fighting skills are impressive enough that the Mongols choose to keep him around for gladiatorial style games, which is how he winds up fighting a European warrior monk, who incidently fights the way warrior monks generally fight if they can manage it, in full armor with a sword. Meanwhile other members of the Order are trekking across the steppes of Russia to assassinate the Khan of Khans in order to break the Mongol advance on Europe. Other chapters follow an intrepid young member of the Khan's household.
If you get the chance, I suggest giving the Mongoliad a read. It's fun.
Thursday, 11th October, 2012, 07:20 PM #70
Enchanter (Lvl 12)