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Monday, 5th November, 2012, 03:28 PM #11
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Personally, I'd want a D&D museum at the former home of GenCon in Milwaukee, but only because I have relatives there and need to visit anyways.
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Monday, 5th November, 2012, 03:58 PM #12
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Preferably some place that is physically spectacular, and looks like an adventuring location: Venice, Italy would be reminiscent of Piratecat's Eversink campaign, for instance. Niagara Falls would be overkill for hinting at Fallcrest. The Grand Canyon of the Colorado River isn't available, dangit.
Does downtown Indianapolis look like a likely adventuring location? Are there ancient ruins, dark alleyways, and inviting inns with shady characters there? Does Utah look enough like Dark Sun? Does Dungeonver, Colorado look dramatically mountainous and adventurous enough?
I don't want to steal Danny Alcatraz's thunder, but New Orleans, Louisiana has:
• City wards that are below the level of the river, kept from flooding by levees, giving active opportunities for heroism (as in the recent past);
• Nearby Lake Ponchartrain, a brackish estuary suitable for scaring people with tales of Bullywugs and Frog Gods;
• Bayous not too far away;
• Bards 'by the galore' -- and everybody knows it;
• Susceptibility to hurricanes, in case Melora (or whoever) gets angry;
• The French Quarter for older structures (not spectacularly ancient, but some of the better examples in that area), as well as romantic cultural differences;
• Highway 61, which Dylan made famous; and likewise Delacroix to the east-by-southeast of NOLA, again perhaps of interest to the bards;
• Voodoo, or 'Voudun' actively practiced.
Yes, it's a long way from the northern homes of Dave and Gary (and of Major David Wesely, of Braunstein fame). It's also a long way from GenCon; but (as mentioned earlier) that's only once a year.
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Monday, 5th November, 2012, 04:17 PM #13
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I have to agree with Morrus. No one is going to go to Lake Geneva just to see the museum. While already there, yeah, the museum becomes a must-see. Lake Geneva is tiny. I live in a small Canadian suburb that has ten times the population of Lake Geneva. Which likely means cheap rent for the museum (I wonder if they could get the old TSR building?) but means during the off season there's not enough local traffic to support it.
Indianapolis seems like the logical place. Gamers are already there and have travelled to get there. They might be willing to drop some money on cab fare to get to the museum, and during the con there could be busses and it could be an event.
Be a good charity event as well. Imagine going on a tour with a couple ex-TSR employees as a GenCon exclusive tour guides for a special event. Would you pay $100 to walk around a D&D museum with Jeff Grubb talking about the background of products? I totally would.
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Monday, 5th November, 2012, 04:22 PM #14
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So really the interesting question is, if you only have one major D&D museum, a D&D Hall of Fame, if you will, then where should it go. To whit...
That is a very good argument for Minneapolis/St. Paul. Folks in the U.K. may not have a very clear image of the Twin Cities, as they're not as high-profile as such luminaries as New York, Chicago, or LA. But it is the largest metropolitan area in the Midwest after Chicago, has an international airport, and a tourism industry that can easily handle another museum, and provide other attractions for people visit. It also has the Source, one of the biggest and best gaming stores in the Midwest. Now, add to all this the Cities' historic pedigree -- home of David Wesely, creator of Braunstein, home of Dave Arneson, co-creator of D&D, home of M.A.R. Barker, creator of Empire of the Petal Throne. It makes a lot of sense.Museums are about bringing things to people that they wouldn't normally be able to see. They're there for the benefit of people. So IMO, we should put them where people are. In this case, put it where D&D players are so that they can benefit from it.
Monday, 5th November, 2012, 04:40 PM #15
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My preference would be Lake Geneva, Gary Con would be the con to go to to see the museum.
Also I think the museum should be mobile enough to make the trip to GenCon every year. I wonder if GenCon could sponsor that. Then it could also travel to other conventions.
Monday, 5th November, 2012, 05:12 PM #16
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Museui should be where people are, or where they go. Lake Geneva is a bad answer for that reason. Seattle or Minneapolis make good locales. The Mall of America is an international tourist destination( not sure why) so it makes sense. Museums are about sharing history, so put it in a bigger city, with at least some connection to Tue game.
Monday, 5th November, 2012, 05:34 PM #17
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Actually I voted Lake Geneva, but I could understand wanting to have it mobile and perhaps intermittent for money reasons. Then it could just travel around and be at Cons.
Monday, 5th November, 2012, 05:35 PM #18
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I don't know what kind of exhibits would be planned for a D&D museum or what they would cost to display. I suspect that what anybody wanting to establish one would have to do is think in a mercenary way - where can they come up with the funds to have a museum in the first place? Where might they have to put it to comply with the wishes of the benefactors?
Frankly, what may be more appropriate is a virtual museum with physical copies of the materials displayed stored by some kind of archivist or conservator. I doubt the Walworth County Historical Society would be all that interested. But the Wisconsin Historical Society might be - they have a pretty well regarded collection of American history including ephemeral materials. RPGs might be a pretty good adjunct to that sort of collection.
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Monday, 5th November, 2012, 07:01 PM #19
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With all the arguments for Indianapolis, I would have to ask, what if the convention moves? I mean, that is what happened to Lake Geneva and Minneapolis. If GenCon were to move locations again, then all of the arguments for "that's where the gamers are" become a moot point. I say put it somewhere that has a strong tie in history, Lake Geneva. That's where it started pretty much.
Monday, 5th November, 2012, 07:07 PM #20
It seems to me that the logic of putting a D&D Museum in Indianapolis is only incrementally more sound than placing it in Lake Geneva. Indianapolis certainly has a larger population and would certainly get the museum a LOT of foot traffic one weekend a year, but if the argument is "put it where the people are" then everything should only ever be in New York.
That said, I'm not opposed to it being in Indianapolis, but the reason to put it there is the same reason you'd put it in Lake Geneva. It's a location with specific significance to gamers.