Character Sheet Feedback

Ebon Shar said:

By the way,Jeff, I spent a year at Kentridge HS back in my youth. Did you go to HS in Kent?

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GX.Sigma said:

Maybe add a line for Expenses, as introduced in the Equipment doc (instead of "Upkeep," e.g.).

Also, maybe change "Vision" to "Senses," since players can have blindsense and stuff like that.

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Jeff Carlsen said:

I want to. I simply don't have the software. The only tool that I know is capable of it is Adobe Acrobat. If someone knows of an inexpensive alternative, I'll gladly look into it.

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cmbarona said:

www.pdfescape.com

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Weather Report said:

Well, the latest sheet is horrendous, but I format characters like monsters, so I don't really give a toss.

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Jeff Carlsen said:

Horrendous? In what way?

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• Ability modifiers are still called "bonuses." They need to be called modifiers. We have plenty of negatives at my table.
• It's weird how there's only one box for attack bonus. This keeps confusing my players. Are we supposed to put our "base" attack bonus in there, or that plus our ability modifier? I propose attack bonus should be split into the bonus you actually use when you attack with something ("strength attack," "dexterity attack," "magic attack"), and base attack bonus from class levels. The former should be in [a] big, very visible box[es], and the latter should be a tiny footnote.
• The Defenses section should have one field that is just called "Armor" and sets your "Base AC," since that's how armor works.
• The Attacks and Defenses sections doesn't need weights, since that's already in the Equipment section.
• "Add dex modifier" under AC doesn't make much sense. That implies that you expect people to write down their AC without dex modifier, and do the math in their head every time something attacks them. I propose you change that line to "includes dex modifier."
• I agree that lore fields as checklist doesn't make sense. Many lore fields are general headings--how am I supposed to record that I have Cultural Lore (Icewind Dale) and Cultural Lore (Myth Drannor)?
• It's weird that the "use ability score for..." column has such specific tasks, and that Constitution has none. Maybe scour the How to Play doc for more examples of what ability scores are used for.
• Failed Death Saves should be on page 1. So should Successful Death Saves, since you have to track both.
• "Ethereal" should be changed to "incorporeal" in the list of conditions on the adventure tracking page. The list is also not quite alphabetized correctly, and doesn't include "unconscious."

Li Shenron said:

Ignore. Your character sheet is certainly nice for a lot of us, good job!

Some feedback from me too...

- Fields of Lore as a checklist is not ideal IMO, for two reasons: (1) they rarely change after character creation (IIRC only if you take the Loremaster feat) and (2) some of them are actually split in sublores that you can have multiples of

- Feats probably need more space now, since each of them has many uses... also Fighters can have up to 7 feats

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GX.Sigma said:

This sheet is nearly perfect, but the imperfections really bug me.

• Ability modifiers are still called "bonuses." They need to be called modifiers. We have plenty of negatives at my table.
• It's weird how there's only one box for attack bonus. This keeps confusing my players. Are we supposed to put our "base" attack bonus in there, or that plus our ability modifier? I propose attack bonus should be split into the bonus you actually use when you attack with something ("strength attack," "dexterity attack," "magic attack"), and base attack bonus from class levels. The former should be in [a] big, very visible box[es], and the latter should be a tiny footnote.
• The Defenses section should have one field that is just called "Armor" and sets your "Base AC," since that's how armor works.
• The Attacks and Defenses sections doesn't need weights, since that's already in the Equipment section.
• "Add dex modifier" under AC doesn't make much sense. That implies that you expect people to write down their AC without dex modifier, and do the math in their head every time something attacks them. I propose you change that line to "includes dex modifier."
• I agree that lore fields as checklist doesn't make sense. Many lore fields are general headings--how am I supposed to record that I have Cultural Lore (Icewind Dale) and Cultural Lore (Myth Drannor)?
• It's weird that the "use ability score for..." column has such specific tasks, and that Constitution has none. Maybe scour the How to Play doc for more examples of what ability scores are used for.
• Failed Death Saves should be on page 1. So should Successful Death Saves, since you have to track both.
• "Ethereal" should be changed to "incorporeal" in the list of conditions on the adventure tracking page. The list is also not quite alphabetized correctly, and doesn't include "unconscious."

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• Good call on the bonuses versus modifiers. I keep forgetting to change it.
• The space is for the Attack Bonus granted by your class. I don't see much value in having a space for the derived stats, since each weapon has such as space. But I'll think on it. That said, the attack bonus as we know it is getting replaced in the next packet.
• I'm also unhappy with how I'm presenting armor calculations. Though I'm a bit unhappy with how the game presents them.
• There are no constitution actions, and I intend that space to only describe actions. It worked better with the last packet.
• I probably wont add death saves to the front page, but I will add a successful saves section and a bit more related info.
• I never went over the conditions with the new packet. Thanks for pointing this out.