Affairs

Morrus · Feb 8, 2014

Scott DeWar said:
there in lies a problem. I have seen so many times where both parties say they are in agreement, but it usually came out in the form of great emotional pain that there was a desire for the 'exclusive rights clause'. it is regrettable, and my friends who get hurt in that kind of a mess usually get more emotionally hurt then my physical damage that put me in the hospital 2+ years ago.

He'll, I've seen jealousy and hurt in regular friendships which have zero connotation of exclusivity.

trappedslider · Feb 8, 2014

trappedslider said:
just reading the thoughts of a few folks in htis thread make me think of Alex Huxley's Brave New World take on sex and relationships.....

For those who haven't read it here's Brave New World's take

Recreational sex is an integral part of society. According to the World State, sex is a social activity, rather than a means of reproduction (sex is encouraged from early childhood). The few women who can reproduce are conditioned to use birth control, even wearing a "Malthusian belt" (which resembles a cartridge belt and holds "the regulation supply of contraceptives") as a popular fashion accessory. The maxim "everyone belongs to everyone else" is repeated often, and the idea of a "family" is considered pornographic; sexual competition and emotional, romantic relationships are rendered obsolete because they are no longer needed. Marriage, natural birth, parenthood, and pregnancy are considered too obscene to be mentioned in casual conversation. Thus, society has developed a new idea of reproductive comprehension.

Kramodlog · Feb 9, 2014

Morrus said:
I don't think there is any. The bachelor playboy has only positive 'stigma' associated with it. George Clooney, Hugh Hefner, Bruce Wayne. It's portrayed in media as a privileged and enviable thing.

Interesting that you name only males. Women very much have a stigma attached to it. But I'm not talking about people who are single.

Making a promise then not keeping it? Yeah, there's stigma about that.

Depends on the culture when it comes to infidelity. Why not free ourselves from drama by just accepting that it is normal to have sex with other people?

Morrus · Feb 9, 2014

goldomark said:
Interesting that you name only males. Women very much have a stigma attached to it.

You just - literally - selectively quoted half of my post, and ignored the other half which said exactly what you did about women.

I need you to sincerely assure me that was a reading comprehension error, and not a trolling attempt.

Scott DeWar · Feb 9, 2014

or conversely, why not the other societies that see not the wrong of infidelity, change to the better life but more challenging of monogamy?

Kramodlog · Feb 9, 2014

Morrus said:
You just - literally - selectively quoted half of my post, and ignored the other half which said exactly what you did about women.

I need you to sincerely assure me that was a reading comprehension error, and not a trolling attempt.

You need to stop seing trolling everywhere.

So, what do you think about the French and infidelity?

Kramodlog · Feb 9, 2014

Scott DeWar said:
or conversely, why not the other societies that see not the wrong of infidelity, change to the better life but more challenging of monogamy?

They could also shoot themselves in the foot, to make walking more challenging.

Morrus · Feb 9, 2014

goldomark said:
You need to stop seing trolling everywhere.

I don't. Only in people I have screenshots of declaring their utter contempt for EN Worlders and their intent to troll them. I'm serious - I need your sincere assurance that that was a reading miscomprehension, and not a trolling attempt when you quoted half my post and ignored the test. This is my second time asking.

So, what do you think about the French and infidelity?

I don't think about the French.

Nellisir · Feb 9, 2014

I was briefly involved with a woman who was engaged. This was..more than two decades ago (now I feel old). I had taken the semester off from school, moved to Alabama & was living with my aunt, uncle, and younger cousin. My older cousin was getting married, very informal affair (courtroom, bride's sister wore a t-shirt with a pack of smokes rolled up in the sleeve). Met an attractive girl at the reception/party, had a nice time, she wanted to hang out some more. I went over to her house a few times the next week; no sex but lots of fooling around. It was miles and miles upon miles away from the blue-blood New England three dates till the first kiss I was accustomed to, so it was lots of fun, and she was obviously very into me. Finally, after a week +, my older cousin stops by and says "just so you know, her fiance is in basic training right now."

She didn't wear a ring and hadn't said a thing about it. I told my aunt that I wasn't home if she called. And that was it.