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    A Red and Pleasant Land (5e hack)

    Since falling back in love with D&D with the release of 5e, I have been scouring the web and bookstores looking for a campaign setting for a campaign. Forgotten Realms is cool and all, but I am looking for something different to run eventually.

    One mind-blowing option is A Red and Pleasant Land. It seems easy enough to convert to 5e, but honestly any game that's going to grab me isn't really about mechanics, but ideas and opportunities for players to thrash around heroically in a vibrant world filled with interesting NPCs wrapped in compelling relationships.

    So, Alice in Wonderland meets Dracula? Come on. Imagining what I can do with that ... what my friends/players will do with that ... this is going to be something special.

    Anyway, this isn't a review. There are plenty of raves out there you can google. I'm hoping to find 5e people who want to talk about how to convert and how you might use some of the rich material in your game.

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    I haven't used it in my game yet, but here's the variation I've got going for the Alice character class. The only thing I've been wondering about for when my players to end up in the Red and Pleasant Land is how to roll with vampires. My conversion style so far has been to try to just use MM monsters but the MM vampires are either super gnarly or pretty average. If you reckon the queens and king are Vampires, then it might be worthy making Rooks, Knights, etc based on the Vampire spawn entry. Maybe a lil tougher.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...h.3wuwpg2te48l
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    I really like what you've done with your cut at it.

    The concept of the Alice intrigues me so much, but I'm not sure yet that I need it to be a class. If you've ever played Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 3rd, I sort of see it like a Party Card, where the party can tap into Exasperation at critical moments. I also like the idea of a rotating Alice in the party. The inhabitants of the Red and Pleasant land can see who is the Alice at any moment, but the PCs have to figure that out ... and by the time they do, someone else might be the Alice. Right now, I'm just having too much stream of consciousness fun with it to pin down any hard mechanics yet.

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    I recommend making the Heart Queen, Colorless Queen, Pale King and Red King as tough as monsters in your setting can get and then scaling everyone else from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak S View Post
    I recommend making the Heart Queen, Colorless Queen, Pale King and Red King as tough as monsters in your setting can get and then scaling everyone else from there.
    I guess the Red King could be a Death Knight or a Liche. Definitely out of the league of any adventurers I DM. On the other hand, I'm still learning thet 5e characters can handle some pretty high level foes given the right conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durn View Post
    I guess the Red King could be a Death Knight or a Liche.
    In my conception, the royal vampires are very powerful, but stick mainly to traditional vampire activites: creeping around, turning into animals, biting people, charm, bossing around minions, being hard to kill.

    Zaps and most overt spells are outside the vibe I was going for. But, hey--it's your game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak S View Post
    In my conception, the royal vampires are very powerful, but stick mainly to traditional vampire activites: creeping around, turning into animals, biting people, charm, bossing around minions, being hard to kill.

    Zaps and most overt spells are outside the vibe I was going for. But, hey--it's your game.
    Your book is super awesome, I haven't finished reading it but, as most other people, I'm loving it.

    Do you have any videos of actual play? I am very intrigued of watching how you run RaPL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psiconauta_retro View Post
    Your book is super awesome, I haven't finished reading it but, as most other people, I'm loving it.
    Thanks!
    Do you have any videos of actual play? I am very intrigued of watching how you run RaPL.
    There are lots of videos of us playing...
    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/vide...A-New-Fur-Coat
    ...but not of us specifically playing Red & Pleasant Land. At least not yet.

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    Yeah, I'm not sold on Alice as a class, because I think it feels more like a role orthogonal to how D&D uses classes. But D&D doesn't really *have* another way to assign stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SavageCole View Post
    One mind-blowing option is A Red and Pleasant Land.

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    Anyway, this isn't a review. There are plenty of raves out there you can google. I'm hoping to find 5e people who want to talk about how to convert and how you might use some of the rich material in your game.
    I'm sorry to disappoint you but I'm going to have rave about this product and not (yet) offer meaningful feedback. This setting supplement is blowing me away -- insanely imaginative, heaps of ideas... I don't easily get impressed with rpg settings but this right here is a home run.
    Last edited by Denys; Monday, 22nd December, 2014 at 07:04 AM. Reason: formatting
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