Amulet of Mighty Fists , Agile - Contribute to Natural Weapons?

resrick · Apr 16, 2015

So something I have been looking at (with the help of Aura) is working my Alchemist to a Dex based melee/ranged fighter (with later going into the Master Chymist). So we were attempting to figure out how to make his Natural Weapons attacks (2x Claw and Bite) use DEX modifier instead of Strength.

One way she brought to my attention was the Amulet of Mighty Fists +0, Agile. Then later taking the Weapon Finesse feat as well. The question is though, can Agile be granted to Natural Attacks? or unarmed attacks for that matter. Hoping to see what everyone thinks on it.

Here area few relevant links to each of the things in question just to make it easier for y'all to find.
Amulet of Mighty Fist - http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/a-b/amulet-of-mighty-fists
Agile - http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons/magic-weapon-special-abilities/agile
Weapon Finesse - http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/weapon-finesse-combat---final

Aura · Apr 17, 2015

Well, I suggested this, so I better come to bat.

To me, I'll be honest, it just seems intuitive that Agile Weapon Property on an Amulet of Mighty Fists simply would work on natural weapons. Outside of a quick snippet about weapon balance (which seems to be fluff--it actually does more to harm the idea that Agile Weapon Property is magical at all and simply a physical property, but I digress), it seems really straightforward.

It was suggested I do a quick check of the Paizo boards. I'm not exactly accustomed to their website, but I muddled through it. I could not find an official rules clarification either way, but there is a general consensus and it appears to be very strongly yes:

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qmfz?Agile-Amulet-of-Mighty-Fist#1
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pspy?Agile-and-Amulet-of-Mighty-Fists#1
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2oi8v?Amulet-of-mighty-fists-and-agile-does-it-work#1
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p9zm?Can-you-add-Agile-to-an-Amulet-of-Mighty-Fists#1
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2plqi?Amulet-of-Mighty-Fists-and-Agile-melee-weapon#1

Other threads exist where the OP talks about his Monk with AoMF/Agile and has some question about some detail on how it works... people just assume it does.

As an aside, is the official cost 4k x (bonus squared) gold? I know they've fiddled it.