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This may be a silly question, but can we expect Paizo to start updating their APs to 5th edition? It seems like an easy way for them to generate revenue with relatively little effort expended.

Entsuropi said:

This may be a silly question, but can we expect Paizo to start updating their APs to 5th edition? It seems like an easy way for them to generate revenue with relatively little effort expended.

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I wouldn't expect them to. Not that I have any particular insight, but they've spent a decade carefully building their Pathfinder brand now. I don't think a quick cash-grab is something they particularly need.

Why not do the second AP as an update compiled edition?

It's almost certain that most of it's 6 books are long out of stock, and for latecomers (like myself) and new players, this is a good way to get hold of them.

Azgulor said:

You’re projecting – a lot.

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It does seem to be going around.

Azgulor said:

I only hit ENWorld about 1/week now, but holy cow, is it impossible for the 5e crowd to just enjoy 5e without needing PF to fail to do so?

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I'm not monoGamist and am quite happily to play multiple systems. Some Star Wars going on now after the excitement for Force Awakens and I might dabble in WOIN for a Trek game later. And I'm looking forward to adding Horror Adventures to my collection:
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I don't need Pathfinder to fail. I'm worried that Pathfinder might fail.

Azgulor said:

CotCT regularly polls near the top of the list of favorite APs when the question comes up on Paizo forums. It is far from “adequately received”.

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Because it's been around so long there's quite a few people who have played it and enjoyed it. It's a decent enough story. But it doesn't top the "what AP do I play next?" polls often and doesn't get people excited (but, admittedly, maybe a collected edition will help with that).
It's pretty straightforward and classic. But Paizo already released a generic evergreen adventure (RotRL) so going for something different might have had appeal.
Plus, it already sounds like CotCT works. Couldn't they have done something different and "fixed" an AP, like Second Darkness that is dragged down by its penultimate part? Or had Kingmaker with a simpler kingdom management system for people who wanted the Sandbox but didn't want the rules, with the option to port in Ultimate Campaign as needed?

Azgulor said:

How are lower cost versions of the CRB & Bestiary a bad thing? Whether as table copies or entry-level books, they’ll be good options. Pinnacle Entertainment Group has done a similar move with Savage Worlds to good popularity & success for a long time. I run campaigns for each of my sons and their friends – that’s 16 kids that I’ve introduced to Pathfinder. These books will be perfect for them.

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It's not bad, but it's curious.
Pathfinder has a pretty low cost already with PDFs and the PRD. And because the CRB has not been hit by inflation it's pretty cheap for what you get.
I don't have a lot of love for RPG softcovers after my time with Palladium, as they tend to get destroyed pretty quickly if you're not super, super careful. You don't so much rent them as lease them.

Jester Canuck said:

Plus, it already sounds like CotCT works. Couldn't they have done something different and "fixed" an AP, like Second Darkness that is dragged down by its penultimate part?

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Assuming we don't see PF 2.0 before then, I'd expect a "Second Darkness" hardcover announced either next year or the year after. Though I'll be surprised if it's significantly 'fixed'.

These sound like "Safe Choices" to me.

I'm not sure how 5E is impacting Pathfinder/Paizo, but these sound like not only "Safe" choices, but also good "Entry level" points for people, esp with the lower priced rulebooks. And I'm totally onboard for "Horror Adventures' when it comes out as well.

And I'm all in favor of compiled versions of their Adventure Paths at a reasonable price., esp. if they get tweaked/edited for the better in the process!

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Jester Canuck said:

Curse of the Crimson Throne is an odd choice. It was the second Pathfinder AP (for 3.5e) but it was only adequately received. It took a long time for many of the volumes to sell out and many are still available (despite being sold at half price on Paizo.com). It certainly was not as popular as Skull & Shackles or Kingmaker.
It feels like the safe choice. The second oldest so they don't have to worry about newer ones not selling as people anticipate a collection, and they can justify reselling it because the rules can be updated.

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Jester, in every "rate the APs" thread I've ever seen (anywhere), Curse of the Crimson Throne is always #1 or #2, with only Kingmaker giving it a run for its money. If I had to wager a guess its about 60/40 split between those two respectfully for the top spot. Skull and Shackles is actually a decent bit more divisive, at about the #4-#5 range (some complaints I've seen people mention are the pressgang opener and the general unheroic leanings of the campaign). Given Curse is an extremely popular AP that is over half sold out that can also be updated and converted, I'd actually call it a "no-brainer".

"Age of Worms" hardcover????? *fingers crossed They did a great job with RotRL hardcover so I will be waiting for this one. The reprint of the core books is good but not for me.

delericho said:

Assuming we don't see PF 2.0 before then, I'd expect a "Second Darkness" hardcover announced either next year or the year after. Though I'll be surprised if it's significantly 'fixed'.

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James Jacobs has specifically mentioned that as something he'd like to eventually do, take Second Darkness and essentially redo/fix it.

marroon69 said:

"Age of Worms" hardcover????? *fingers crossed They did a great job with RotRL hardcover so I will be waiting for this one. The reprint of the core books is good but not for me.

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Sadly, unless they worked out a special deal with Wizards, that is very unlikely to ever happen.