The Last Jedi trailer

Ryujin · Apr 17, 2017

Jester David said:
Looks okay. Not much to go on.
I like the implication of no more Jedi. The possibility of balance and a middle ground beyond the continual cycle between Light and Dark. That Luke isn't just interested in continuing the cycle, but breaking it.

Different writer/ director though. This one is being done by the guy who did Looper.

I'm looking forward to something a little more nuanced than a 1930s white het/black hat Western. Based on the first 6 movies I'd have to say that the whole Jedi concept essentially creates fighters for The Dark Side, who are personally each more powerful than the regular Light Side Jedi. I figure that in the following movies the Jedi will go away, but The Force is a constant.

Rabulias · Apr 19, 2017

I agree that the balance of the Force looks to be the focus here, but I could not help but think the trailer is using creative editing and the full line was something like "It's time for the Jedi to end the First Order!" or "It's time for the Jedi to end their old ways." or "It's time for the Jedi to end their nap!"

Dioltach · Apr 19, 2017

"... their Netflix subscription!"

calronmoonflower · Apr 20, 2017

Water Bob said:
Comments on the teaser...

I get the feeling from the teaser that the training of Rey is going to be believable in that it is a substantial process, taking some time. She's not a Jedi...or whatever she will be...over night.

I doubt that she will be trained to be a jedi as of Luke's quote about that it is time for the jedi to come to an end. It is more likely she will be trained in the way of the unified force rather that something like a grey jedi.

Wystan · Apr 20, 2017

Personally I think he starts by refusing to train her "It's time for the Jedi to end" and then his mind is changed and she is trained as a Jedi.

Kramodlog · Apr 21, 2017

So, if their won't be any Jedi anymore, what will they call the not evil force users?

Legatus Legionis · Apr 21, 2017

doctorbadwolf · Apr 21, 2017

Jester David said:
Looks okay. Not much to go on.
I like the implication of no more Jedi. The possibility of balance and a middle ground beyond the continual cycle between Light and Dark. That Luke isn't just interested in continuing the cycle, but breaking it.

I can't even express how strongly I hope they don't make the "grey" balance concept canon. Like...the best thing that happened in the last season of Rebels was the Bendu being debunked.

In the real world, there is grey. In morality in SW, there is grey.

In the Force, there is just the Force, and the corruption and perversion of the Force which people call The Dark Side.

But I agree that the Jedi need to end. The Jedi rules are part of what caused the problems the movies have been about. Not the insistence on walking in the Light, but the specific traditions and rules of the Jedi Order.

But I also don't want to see the whole "the bad guys only exist as a response to the good guys" thing that Batman writers unfathomably love so much. It's nonsense, and I just can't take a story seriously which makes it a premise. The Sith exist because the WIll to Power is stronger in some than restraint, compassion, and basic common sense. Not because the Jedi exist.

doctorbadwolf · Apr 21, 2017

calronmoonflower said:
I doubt that she will be trained to be a jedi as of Luke's quote about that it is time for the jedi to come to an end. It is more likely she will be trained in the way of the unified force rather that something like a grey jedi.

Perhaps something like Qui Gon's "Living Force" philosophy?

Water Bob · Apr 22, 2017

You know what I heard?

I heard that The Last Jedi will feature the return of a beloved character from the original trilogy.

No, I'm not talking about Lando.

It's...

ZOMBIE YODA!!!!!!

"Ooooo. Gruesome, I am."

The Last Jedi trailer

Ryujin

Legend

Rabulias

the Incomparably Shrewd and Clever

Dioltach

Legend

calronmoonflower

Explorer

Wystan

Explorer

Kramodlog

Naked and living in a barrel

Legatus Legionis

< BWAH HA Ha ha >

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle

Water Bob

Adventurer

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