D&D 5E A better basics

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Yunru

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• May 21, 2017

• #1

So the basic rules we have are only really basic in that there's not much there, rather than being easy to play (I'm looking at you Wizard with your decision-paralysis inducing spells).

So what classes and races would you choose if you could make your own Basic handbook?

 

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Yunru

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• May 21, 2017

• #2

Personally I would swap out the Wizard for the Land Druid, although I'm not sure about the rest.

 

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DaviMMS

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• May 21, 2017

• #3

The intention of the basic rules is not for it to be easier to play than the PHB.
It is a kind of demo version that brings the most traditional classes with it's most traditional archetypes (Simple Fighter, Thief Rogue, Blaster Wizard and Healer Cleric).

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Yunru

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• May 21, 2017

• #4

Clearly you misunderstand. I'm not asking what you would put in a "Demo Handbook". I'm asking what you'd put in "5E for Dummies".

 

KahlessNestor

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• May 21, 2017

• #5

Yunru said:

Clearly you misunderstand. I'm not asking what you would put in a "Demo Handbook". I'm asking what you'd put in "5E for Dummies".

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Exactly what's there, because that's D&D at its core.

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Yunru

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• May 21, 2017

• #6

KahlessNestor said:

Exactly what's there, because that's D&D at its core.

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Are you trying to be hard?
I don't care what's DnD at it's core. I want to know what you'd put in a handbook designed to introduce players to DnD without completely overwhelming them. That means keeping it as simple as possible.

 

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DaviMMS

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• May 21, 2017

• #7

I though you were talking about the Basic Rules released by WotC.

If I were to rate classes by easy of use I would rate this way

Tier 1- Almost no options. Just go and smash
Barbarians and Champion Fighters

Tier 2 - Very few options or the need of some small tatical thinking. Also clerics and moon druids because you can't ruin their builds (change spells every day) and high survability.
EK and BM Fighters, All rogues, Paladins, Revised Rangers, Clerics, Moon Druids and Wizard focused on Blasting

Tier 3 - Not very tactical in play but can be tricky to build
Warlocks, Sorcerers and PHB Rangers.

Tier 4 - High tactical thinking recommended to be effective
Controller Wizard, Land Druids, Monks and Bards.

I would recommend begginers to stay away from tier 4 and ask for help when building on tier 3.


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KahlessNestor

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• May 21, 2017

• #8

Yunru said:

Are you trying to be hard?
I don't care what's DnD at it's core. I want to know what you'd put in a handbook designed to introduce players to DnD without completely overwhelming them. That means keeping it as simple as possible.

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I don't fimd new players completely overwhelmed even when I give them the entire PHB. It's the DM's job to coach them through it. Why would I want to present them anything that isn't D&D"at its core" if we're playing D&D?

You asked, and I gave my answer and reason. No need to be snippy about it just because I don't agree with you.

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KahlessNestor

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• May 21, 2017

• #9

I have also had players that had trouble with something as simple as a "hit it with something sharp" barbarian or melee ranger. Basic doesn't necessarily mean simple.

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Yunru

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• May 21, 2017

• #10

KahlessNestor said:

It's the DM's job to coach them through it.

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And it's a physics teacher's job to teach physics. Yet they don't start by throwing you into string theory.