D&D 5E Dragon Fire - the Drogon Initiative

Sunseeker · Aug 11, 2017

dave2008 said:
I like that idea (heat metal). My goodness we can make dragon fire truly frightening with all of the options presented in this thread!

Which they should be.

Uchawi · Aug 12, 2017

dave2008 said:
For me the book keeping issue is potentially worse with your suggestion. If I say the ongoing damage last 5 rounds, then I have to remember to apply the damage for 5 rounds. However, if I only have to take an action and make a check (per an earlier comment it should be a check), that will probably only last one for two rounds for a PC of an appropriate level. That, for me, is much less book keeping.

I see your point about book keeping and there is a preference for each DM or player on what is better. From my perspective, it would be easer to mark it on an initiative tracker. The added benefit is it does not involve rolling more dice.

dave2008 · Aug 12, 2017

Uchawi said:
I see your point about book keeping and there is a preference for each DM or player on what is better. From my perspective, it would be easer to mark it on an initiative tracker. The added benefit is it does not involve rolling more dice.

I see your point, of course you could handle that with avg. damage

dave2008 · Aug 12, 2017

I have added an updated Ancient Red Dragon with the revised fire breath mechanics discussed in this thread to the OP.

Eubani · Aug 13, 2017

dave2008 said:
I have added an updated Ancient Red Dragon with the revised fire breath mechanics discussed in this thread to the OP.

Now we're talking about a real dragon.

OB1 · Aug 13, 2017

dave2008 said:
EDIT: Ancient Red Dragon update:
This is an update to the MM Ancient Red Dragon incorporating some suggestions form this thread. Please note taht because I also gave the dragon "Magic Resistance" and higher damage it increase the CR to 25.
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Truly terrifying and very much in the spirit of the awesome encounter on GOT last week. Well done!

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dave2008 · Aug 13, 2017

OB1 said:
Truly terrifying and very much in the spirit of the awesome encounter on GOT last week. Well done!

Thank you!

Hjorimir · Aug 14, 2017

Interesting take on a dragon. Overall, I think it's very well done. Personally, I'd change the tail sweep to be an AE attack with a Dex save and oppose the knockback and prone effects with choice of Athletics or Acrobatics.

jimmytheccomic · Aug 14, 2017

dave2008 said:
I have added an updated Ancient Red Dragon with the revised fire breath mechanics discussed in this thread to the OP.

Thank you! My campaign is building towards a fight with an Ancient Red, I'll definitely be using this! It'll be several months, but I'll check in and let you know how they did.

dave2008 · Aug 14, 2017

Hjorimir said:
Interesting take on a dragon. Overall, I think it's very well done.

Thank you - I'm glad you like it. It seems every few months a make a new version of the ancient red.

Hjorimir said:
Personally, I'd change the tail sweep to be an AE attack with a Dex save and oppose the knockback and prone effects with choice of Athletics or Acrobatics.

I've done that before (except with a Str save on the prone/pushback), but I wanted to try something different this time and see how it works.