The Paizo Round Up For 12-7-2017
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    The Paizo Round Up For 12-7-2017

    Welcome back folks, it’s time for the PAIZO NEWS ROUNDUP, your one-stop spot for all the new and interesting material coming from your favorite ever-giving golem. In this go-round, we’ll pick up some new toys that got left out of the earlier look at Ultimate Wilderness, and also introduce a brand new Player Companion. Let’s get started!


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    When we last left Ultimate Wilderness, we had waxed at length about the new classes, archetypes, and races made available to players. Well, stuff that! I’m a GM at heart, and I want to learn all sorts of new ways to challenge, frustrate, and kill my players. I never said I was a nice GM.

    Thankfully, it seems part of Ultimate Wilderness was made with us beleaguered GMs in mind. I’m particularly happy with the section entitled "Hazards and Disasters," although "happy" doesn’t sound quite as good as "giddy glee." Everything from bramble thickets to volcanic eruptions are covered here, and I’m going to have to return to that section on vampire orchids.

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    More than just hazards, however, Ultimate Wilderness has more ways for you to make your characters guess and worry about resources. Inclement weather is a perpetual bugbear to those making their living out in the wilderness (although it rarely precipitates bugbears - someone find a wizard and fix that). This book has section dedicated to providing a more robust system for modelling the weather while they wander, and what that means for the players. Mostly Bad Things, as I understand it.

    Speaking of Mostly Bad Things for players, let’s not forget my favorite part: traps! Spruce up your boring old pit traps and snares with some of the devilish new devices found in Ultimate Wilderness. I never get tired of telling new GMs to add more traps to their campaigns (and then never doing it myself, of course), but now I’ll finally get my chance to add the double-log-swing trap from Endor into one of my games. If I have to give my players a robot walker first to do it, by gum I will.

    That’s not to say that everything out in the wilderness is always trying to get your players. For the vast majority of the time, they’ll just be wandering around in search of their next hidden crypt or forgotten dungeon to explore. Ultimate Wilderness provides an approachable and usable system for mapping the wilds and new discoveries that doesn’t turn overland journeys into a travel-by-map montage.

    Last but certainly not least, Ultimate Wilderness also provides answers to those same questions that always seem to come up about foraging. “Can I look for herbs to make a healing potion?” Yes, you can! “Can I cut off its tusks to make a scary trophy necklace?” Of course! Here’s how. “Can I take its poison glands to use on other things?” Sure, what’s your alignment again? “Wait, you’re actually going to make me find and use spell components?” Time to get some muck under your fingernails, wizard!

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    And hey, speaking of potions and poisons, would you take a gander at the newest upcoming Player Companion: Potions & Poisons! It’s got all sorts of neat new toys for players, ugh. First and foremost are feats and archetypes for characters of a slightly more venomous or toxic persuasion. Gripplis, nagajis, and vishkanyas can grab the swamp poisoner, venomblade, and disciple of the forked tongue archetype respectively.

    Potions & Poisons has archetypes to spare. The new scorpion bloodline makes its debut for sorcerers who don’t like to get invited to wine tastings. Alchemists, rogues, witches, and investigators all get new options for archetypes, and also get expanded abilities in the form of their discoveries, talents, hexes, and tricks. All poison-focused, of course.

    Even better, in my opinion, is the expanded list of spells that are made viable for use as potions or oils. Beyond that, Potions & Poisons will introduce 10 new poisons and 12 new drugs, for when your character REALLY doesn’t want to remember last night. There’s also some new items for use against poisons, in case all this attention is getting you nervous about your upcoming expedition into a forgotten city of snake people.

    Well, that about covers it for this edition of the PAIZO NEWS ROUNDUP! Keep an eye here for more updates on the ever-moving ambitions from our friendly neighborhood Golem. Meanwhile, I have some volcanoes to put on my maps…

    ​contributed by Ben Reece

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    The one issue with "Ultimate Wilderness" is the Shifter class. It's pretty weak and has several issues the forums on Paizo are pointing out. I believe Paizo regrets not playtesting it like they have with all their other classes. Why they chose not to put this through public playtest is beyond me, but I hope they learned their lesson. And now they're stuck with it, unless they actually do a real revision, which I doubt since the book is already done and released. The lack of a public playtest was such a poor decision.

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    Yeah, the sheer level of shade being thrown at the shifter when the book came out was such that the official Paizo thread on the book's sales page had to be closed multiple times, and finally a directive was handed down ordering posters not to discuss problems with the class. It was like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

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    Starfinder has felt much the same way. Egg on face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thzero View Post
    Starfinder has felt much the same way. Egg on face.
    Have not noticed anything re: Starfinder other then not enough Starfinder.

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    Yeah, I've generally only seen positive things about Starfinder.

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    Same here. Starfinder is doing really well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erdric Dragin View Post
    The one issue with "Ultimate Wilderness" is the Shifter class. It's pretty weak and has several issues the forums on Paizo are pointing out. I believe Paizo regrets not playtesting it like they have with all their other classes. Why they chose not to put this through public playtest is beyond me, but I hope they learned their lesson. And now they're stuck with it, unless they actually do a real revision, which I doubt since the book is already done and released. The lack of a public playtest was such a poor decision.
    From what I've heard, Paizo stopped doing public playtests because the vast majority of feedback they were getting in recent years wasn't actually useful (because it was from trolls, from people who didn't know how to provide useful feedback in a way the designers could understand/use, or from 'players' who didn't actually test the stuff in play but just gave their opinion after reading through the material).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hand of Vecna View Post
    From what I've heard, Paizo stopped doing public playtests because the vast majority of feedback they were getting in recent years wasn't actually useful (because it was from trolls, from people who didn't know how to provide useful feedback in a way the designers could understand/use, or from 'players' who didn't actually test the stuff in play but just gave their opinion after reading through the material).
    I just wonder if it is better to get that feed back during the design process when it can still be changed or afterwards when it cant?

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    For those folks that found the shifter wasn’t quite what they were hoping for, you might check out the Skin-Changer in the just-released expanded, hardcover edition of the New Paths Compendium

    You can check it out here:
    http://paizo.com/products/btpy9xj5/r...d-Edition#tabs

    Here’s a little preview of the Skin-Changer:
    https://koboldpress.com/new-paths-co...-skin-changer/

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