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Jay Verkuilen

Grand Master of Artificial Flowers

• Jan 12, 2018

• #41

Volund said:

I must have this. Kracky the Hooded One... Trebbelos, Boy Magician... Krago of the Mountains... I hope all the crazy named pregens make it to 5e.

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Don't forget Louvin Lightfinger and Grampal of the Secret Church.

 

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Jorge Jaramillo V

First Post

• Jan 12, 2018

• #42

DEFCON 1 said:

I don't get the feeling they are doing this just so people can play the adventures... it's just as much for archival purposes. People buying them aren't buying them just to play them, the whole point is to have really good versions of classic D&D adventures to have in their collections.

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That's preposterous! The truth is, it's a product for fanatics, those "shut up and take my money" guys who never stops to think what the hell they are paying for. I'm not saying this is just for the money, it's not, but it's not for history's sake, either. If it was for archival purposes, they would be reprinting each individually, probably all the original reprints, and in short stocks for museums and libraries and collector's clubs and such.

Why they did choose to include three versions of the same two books, that is not explained and we can only speculate but there is nothing that points at those archival purposes. Not for the moment.

 

DEFCON 1

Legend

Supporter

• Jan 12, 2018

• #43

Jorge Jaramillo1 said:

Why they did choose to include three versions of the same two books, that is not explained and we can only speculate but there is nothing that points at those archival purposes. Not for the moment.

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I dunno... I think including three versions of the same two books *is* the thing that points towards those archival purposes.

At least moreso than pointing towards "publishing a module strictly to be played".

 

Zarithar

Adventurer

• Jan 12, 2018

• #44

I own the original so don't need it for "archival purposes". I'll be running the 5e version and am looking forward to the newly fleshed out wilderness surrounding the Keep. Saves me the trouble of converting it myself!

 

Lidgar

Gongfarmer

• Jan 12, 2018

• #45

Soooo...any idea on release date yet? Sounds like they are getting sorta kinda close...

 

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Jorge Jaramillo V

First Post

• Jan 13, 2018

• #46

DEFCON 1 said:

At least moreso than pointing towards "publishing a module strictly to be played".

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The standard objective of a roleplaying game book is to play with it. It's only when it is something else, that it should clearly indicated, although this thing (this several versions of the same work in one tome) is new to the industry and I don't know of anithing similar. But you might be right if we compare these books to literature, where a poem can be found in all or several different versions, even if a little has been changed from one to the next, in poet's anthologies.

Let's just wait and see.

 

darjr

I crit!

• Jan 13, 2018

• #47

They’ve done this several times now. Made archival copies of classic titles, from metamorphosis alpha to grimtooths traps. But your right, it’s also meant to be a sturdy copy for play as well. They’ve said as much during the metamorphosis alpha Kickstarter. I want it for both those things. And note that in the metamorphosis alpha Kickstarter they made a soft cover and pdf of the core rules book available. Maybe they can find a way to do something similar with this.

 

Eltab

Lord of the Hidden Layer

• Jan 13, 2018

• #48

I have an in-the-box version of KotB. I don't own CotU.
I'm interested in this because I'm:
- too lazy to look up all the monsters' stats in 5e
- too poor to make all the Xeroxes at Staples; and
- too time-constrained for all the cut-and-paste necessary to create a new DM's Edition of the adventure.

I've wanted for a while to find and buy and read and play Return to Keep on the Borderlands. Now I might have to get serious about that.

P.S. There was a recent thread detailing Changes to Keep on the Borderlands. The point was to describe some pre-session prep work that makes the module handle more smoothly during play.
Some changes were of the simple "Write the name of each shop on the Keep map, so you can give directions from -here- to -there-" variety.

 

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Galendril

Explorer

• Jan 13, 2018

• #49

I own In Search of the Unknown and Keep on the Borderlands. I also liked the playtest version of KotBL they did for DnD Next. But, Into the Unknown is pretty much a handful of encounters and the rest is randomized. Even the map makes no sense. In the old days, players would make their own maps and you'd say stuff like "you go down the hall 30 feet and it comes to a T intersection". Or, "the passage turns left, but at a 35 degree angle". It was just a pain in the ass, but I guess we used to consider that fun. Now I just say, the halls twist and turn until they party reaches a decision point or encounter. It was a really boring and tedious dungeon.

My point being, if they were to reprint ISotU, the should of at least put planned out encounters instead of the same sad random tables and update the map.

 

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darjr

I crit!

• Jan 13, 2018

• #50

Also remember, this is the first of possibly many. If you wan't to see more of this for other mods, like maybe the desert of desolation or barrier peaks, buy it.