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    [Spoilers] Down with the Cow

    My party's at book 6 and they're far from enamored with his Bruseness, Shantus. They'd rather like a regime change.

    The problem is that, as far as I can tell, the only mechanism is Tinker managing to assassinate the Bruse in his ambush. Anything else seems like a regime-destabilizing assassination.

    Any suggestions for a 'proper' way for Cavallor or anyone else to challenge Shantus for the leadership?

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    Ber is a pretty new nation, and a foreign power coming in and pushing for a change of leadership is probably not going to end well. Also, as a new nation it doesn't have a well-designed formal system for replacing the Bruse; it'd either be a coup where the new ruler needed a lot more support than Shantus, or the legislators (and I don't recall if we ever stated that Ber has a Congress, or Parliament, or something else) would need to create a system.

    A lot of the nation's unity is in the shared identity of throwing off the dragon tyrants, and the idea that they're actually a civilized nation. So the second option (creating a formal system) would be most likely to work.

    Maybe it could be framed as, "In light of the recent assassination attempt against Bruse Shantus, we realize our laws of succession are not comprehensive. It would have led to a crisis among people vying for control, right as our nation needed to band together to rebuke a dragon tyrant's attempt to subjugate us. Therefore, we propose these formalized lines of succession, taking inspiration from Risur and Danor."

    Then you'd set it up so that the Bruse has to have a successor named, and if there is no named successor when the Bruse dies or becomes incapacitated, a temporary Bruse (called the Bolder) is appointed by the Congress. Likewise, if the Bruse goes for a year without naming a successor, the Congress can name a successor for him. Once a successor is named, if the Bruse wants to name someone else, the change would only take effect after a year, to help people plan long-term.

    Shantus would be irked at this, because he's a paranoid a-hole who doesn't want someone offing him to take his place. So he'd probably name Corta Nariz, thinking it would keep her father from trying to perform a coup against him. Then it would be up to Cavallo de Guerra to turn public opinion against Shantus so much that the Congress could pass a new law giving them the ability to expel the current Bruse.

    It would be messy, like any regime change tends to be, . . . and honestly it probably wouldn't finish playing out before something else in the campaign changes how things go.
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    I had exactly the same situation. And resolved it with letting one of the PCs instigate a plot against Shantus. But before it got anywhere the assassination happened.

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    Y'know, Shantus doesn't really come off as 'paranoid'- heck, he maintains *Pardo* as Minister of Rebellion.

    Some great ideas, though I definitely get what you mean about the changes not finishing playing out by the time the Campaign messes with things dramatically; Last Starry Sky-level dramatically.

    For my Shantus I'm tempted to run with a small variation. Have Shantus realize that he's lost popular support and isn't going to be Bruse much longer. Thus, he devotes his final energies into ruining the post as much as he can for Cavallo: by introducing a Congress/democracy.

    Thanks very much for your thoughts.
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