5E Kingmaker

Zardnaar · Apr 14, 2019

Years ago I ran Pathfinder Kingmaker and enjoyed it earlier on to the extent that The Stolen Lands is one of the best adventures ever made imho.

Recently I also reread the Kingdom rules in Ultimate campaigns. The rules are basically stand alone and seem compatible enough with 5E.

Kingmaker also seems easy enough to convert.

Another idea is to use the rules to claim an area around Phandelver.

Any ideas for using these rules or a settlement in the north?

Ancalagon · Apr 14, 2019

My pathfinder group has 2 gms that alternate (6 ish month per) and one of the 2 campaign is in kingmaker. We might switch to 5e and I would be pretty happy about that, even though some of the characters wouldn't translate 100% - my dwarven alchemist would be *very* different for example.

Zardnaar · Apr 14, 2019

Ancalagon said:
My pathfinder group has 2 gms that alternate (6 ish month per) and one of the 2 campaign is in kingmaker. We might switch to 5e and I would be pretty happy about that, even though some of the characters wouldn't translate 100% - my dwarven alchemist would be *very* different for example.

Characters will be 5E ones. Not much in the rules ties them to Pathfinder.

Did you use them as written or Ultimate Campaigns version?

Ancalagon · Apr 14, 2019

Zardnaar said:
Characters will be 5E ones. Not much in the rules ties them to Pathfinder.

Did you use them as written or Ultimate Campaigns version?

I'm not sure what ultimate campaigns is. Do you mean the "kingdom" rules? I heard the GM talking about using the "most recent" version, maybe this is what he meant.

Zardnaar · Apr 14, 2019

It's a Pathfinder splat that updated the Kingmaker rules.

aco175 · Apr 14, 2019

I would think the region around Phandelver would be a good area for a kingdom. Might want to swing down and encompass Leilon and some of the main road. I would think that both Neverwinter and Waterdeep would be involved in a new kingdom encroaching their circle of influence.

practicalm · Apr 14, 2019

And here I was hoping someone had converted the Avalon Hill board game Kingmaker to D&D.

Fight the War of the Roses with sword and spell. Kill the heirs and then resurrect them back again. Powerful nobles using Lancastrian and Yorkist princes as pawns to gain power.

Zardnaar · Apr 15, 2019

aco175 said:
I would think the region around Phandelver would be a good area for a kingdom. Might want to swing down and encompass Leilon and some of the main road. I would think that both Neverwinter and Waterdeep would be involved in a new kingdom encroaching their circle of influence.

Might be hard getting them to both sign off on it if you decide to annex parts of the north road.

Phandalin might make a good capital or early settlement. You could build an aqueduct or something to pipe in water from the Sword Mountains. I was thinking of building a keep or something near the LMoP, and perhaps trying to get Phandalin or Leilon etc to join voluntarily and you could run patrols along the roads to keep them safe. Another location could be the castle or where the Green Dragon lives. It oculd let you get a town up and running for half cost a'la Stag Lords fort in Kingmaker.

Matrix Sorcica · Apr 15, 2019

Legendary Games has the PF kingdom rules etc. from Kingmaker/Ultimate Campaign as converted 5E products on drivethru.rpg. Haven't read them, so can't vouch for quality. A critique seems to be is a 2direct2 conversion.