Best multiclass for a rogue?

Wuxia · Mar 19, 2002

Rogue/Wizard/Arcane Trickster

LostSoul · Mar 19, 2002

Plane Sailing said:
They may be cross class, but your skill cap becomes level+3 instead of half that...

That's a good point, especially for Fighters. A human Fighter who can take Expertise (4 skill points per level) can keep Spot and Listen maxed out if he takes a level of Rogue (or Ranger).

reapersaurus · Mar 19, 2002

hong said:
A class is a skillset. Being a paladin is a state of mind. There's no reason the two can't be compatible.

oh.. really?
So I guess it's viable to have a paladin advance in levels of assassin then, since that poison use is just a "skill set".

Do you just knee-jerk post stuff in opposition to people, or do you actually think about the situation or discussion at hand?
I'm beginning to wonder about you hong.
You sometimes post good stuff, but sometimes it's close to trolls-ville.

To say that a rogue's skills don't quite mesh with a paladin's values is really missing the boat, methinks.
unless you think of a disguise-wearing, sneaky, forging, hiding, pick-pocketing, backstabbing paladin as a viable character-concept.

It's just skills, right?

LostSoul · Mar 19, 2002

reapersaurus said:
unless you think of a disguise-wearing, sneaky, forging, hiding, pick-pocketing, backstabbing paladin as a viable character-concept.

That sounds like a viable character concept to me...

hong · Mar 19, 2002

reapersaurus said:
oh.. really?
So I guess it's viable to have a paladin advance in levels of assassin then, since that poison use is just a "skill set".

Now you're just being silly, or perhaps you really don't know the difference between base and prestige classes.

Do you just knee-jerk post stuff in opposition to people, or do you actually think about the situation or discussion at hand?
I'm beginning to wonder about you hong.
You sometimes post good stuff, but sometimes it's close to trolls-ville.

Only sometimes? I must be slipping.

To say that a rogue's skills don't quite mesh with a paladin's values is really missing the boat, methinks.
unless you think of a disguise-wearing, sneaky, forging, hiding, pick-pocketing, backstabbing paladin as a viable character-concept.

It's just skills, right?

Yep. Off the top of my head, Frodo and Sam used the following roguish class skills in LOTR:

- Disguise
- Hide
- Move Silently
- Bluff
- Diplomacy
- Sense Motive
- Spot
- Listen

... and to my mind, if Frodo and Sam don't fit the mould of lawful goodness, no-one does.

A rogue is basically someone who specialises in subtlety. Some of the rogue's class skills will be less relevant to a character whose job is to be a scout, point man or diplomat, just as other skills will be less relevant to someone who's a mugger or pickpocket. The idea that all rogues must be larcenous is something that should have died with 1E -- even 2E went to pains to point out that rogues aren't all the same.

Ace · Mar 20, 2002

Wuxia said:
Rogue/Wizard/Arcane Trickster

Darn strait. If when you reach 20th level you can still IIRC cast 9th level spells. rog3/wiz7/arctrx10

mmm Sneaky Archmage....

Deedlit · Mar 20, 2002

Rogue/Druid
You are sneaky, but not in an urban way. You can do what it takes to survive, and have a feline companion to help you. You hunt together(Like lions do) with your companion. You rely in your hide and move silently first. If a hunt fails, you can entagle your enemies and run.

nopantsyet · Mar 20, 2002

One of my players is Rog/Ftr/Wiz and it is a very cool combination. He's wants to eventually take Arcane Trickster. Every battle is different with him because he's got so many options. He just learned Invisibility and that combined with his high Move Silently makes him wicked at sneak attacks, which he can execute equally well whether melee, ranged, or a spell.

-Ekimus- · Mar 20, 2002

what book is the arcane trickster in?

bret · Mar 20, 2002

Ace said:
Darn strait. If when you reach 20th level you can still IIRC cast 9th level spells. rog3/wiz7/arctrx10

mmm Sneaky Archmage....

Need at least 4 ranks of Rogue or 3 ranks of Rogue and one of Bard, LoreMaster or some other PrC that has Decipher Script as a class skill.

The Arcane Trickster requires 7 ranks of Decipher Script, which is an exclusive skill. You can't buy it cross class and you are limited to Class Level +3 when buying it as the class.