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    Quote Originally Posted by MerricB
    Heh - so by the time I heard the story, it was at least fourth-hand! (Jeff told someone who told you who told someone who told me... )

    Not a problem, Gary. Thanks for the info.
    You are most welcome, amigo

    Another question, this one LA related!

    In D&D, there's a fairly big difference between 1st and 9th level characters in their power levels; what sort of difference is there between inexperienced and experienced Avatars in LA? (Inexperienced being starting out, of course, and experienced being those who have been played for a year or two).

    Would you say that it's a flatter progression in abilities? Similar? Greater?

    Cheers!
    It is difficult to draw parallels between the class-level systems and the LA game's skill-bundle base, but...

    The beginning Avatar is possibly like a PC of around 5th or 6th level in capacity, settingaside player accumen, of course. Advancement is slow, gains are generally 1% in one Ability (skill-bundle) per play episode of four hours of active participation. As a new Avatar starts out with five Abilities, and there are a total of 34, the player will need a good deal of time to be highlt able in the initial areas and round out the Avatar with new Abilities.

    Starting scores for Abilities for a human Avatar are in this general range:
    1st: 55-60
    2nd: 40-45
    3rd: 30-35
    4th: 20-25
    5th: 10

    The revised edition of the game, and the primer version coming from TLG will have a paragraph or two advising how to start play with less-potent Avatars, so as to approach the lesser capacity of new class and level-based systems.

    Cheers,
    Gary

 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col_Pladoh
    Back around 1980 I directed TSR to advertise in professional educators' perioricals asking for the reader to registed with the company if ther were intersted in learning about RPG modules designed for classroom instruction, We received over 3,000 requests. In the course of this we hires a Ph.D in Educational Psychology to assist with the creation of the modules. Just as we were ready to begin prodiction, the Blumes canned the project

    I'd appreciate receiving a copy of your essay.

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    Gary
    Then I'll send a copy of the Final your way before I make a decision on sending it to GAMA or Pyramid.
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    Okay Sir Elton!

    When I get the ms. copy I'll read and pass along any critique I might have.

    Cheers,
    Gary

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    Do you use a DM Shield or do you just let the players see all your rolls and whatever they can glean from your notes?

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    And another question that just occured to me quoting you;

    "That meant that their cleric would be dedicated to Boccob, and
    the fighters and others, wanting the benefits of clerical ministrations
    came along for the ride Boccob was never an active deity in play, and none
    of the PCs was eager to have Zagyg intervene..."

    So did the clerics not help party memebers of different beliefs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by solomanii
    Do you use a DM Shield or do you just let the players see all your rolls and whatever they can glean from your notes?
    Cheers Solomanii,

    I seldom use a screen, but I don't leave notes in view of the players--themap sometimes, but not other written material.

    Your second post siad:

    And another question that just occured to me quoting you;

    "That meant that their cleric would be dedicated to Boccob, and
    the fighters and others, wanting the benefits of clerical ministrations
    came along for the ride Boccob was never an active deity in play, and none
    of the PCs was eager to have Zagyg intervene..."

    So did the clerics not help party memebers of different beliefs?
    Yes, clerics of deities not honored by someone needing assistance were generally aided, but at the cost of a "donation" to advance the work of the particylar faith of the cleric.

    The main fun was having clerics of different dieties argue theology, and debates between one of St. Cuthbert and another of Pholtus always ended up in a test of which would prevail by a bonk on the head or temporary blinding. The players had a good sense of humor

    Gary

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    Colonel,

    I was wondering about your own early forays into roleplaying. When I started out (as a wee lad of probably 10 ir so - the memory is the first thing to go!) I remember going through several PC's before being able to have one survive for any length of time! (Hey, I was young! Run into the goblin lair with swords brandished was the height of strategy for the first couple of adventures! And damn the Minotaur in KotB!) Anyway, me and my friends had a habit of rolling up characters as soon as possible after the orihginals died. Usually we would just stick with the same name and add "the seond," "the third," etc. Sometimes we wouldn't even bother with that and just had a line of "Borg the Fighter" over the course of the adventure.

    My question is this: Did you experience the same sort of thing when starting out? I'm sure since you were older and an experienced wargamer there would be a major difference at least in rate of PC death, but I'm wondering if, for instance, the famous Mordenkainen or Yrag, et. al. are all originals or if he's actually "Mordenkainen III." ;-)

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    Hey Gary. It's Grant. You've answered a couple of my questions before. It's so much fun having you around. Here's another question I've had for decades & it just occured to me that I could ask you.

    In the original DMG (which I still have and use) it has a sample combat on page 71. In this, Arlanni the theif uses a crossbow, and Balto the monk uses a sword, both of which were prohibited to those classes at the time. The mistakes seem so egregious that I can't believe they were just an accident. Were you experimenting with different rules at the time? It was a good combat none the less. Was it based on an actual DnD event?

    thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Mouser
    Colonel,

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    My question is this: Did you experience the same sort of thing when starting out? I'm sure since you were older and an experienced wargamer there would be a major difference at least in rate of PC death, but I'm wondering if, for instance, the famous Mordenkainen or Yrag, et. al. are all originals or if he's actually "Mordenkainen III." ;-)

    Gray Mouser
    I never lost any of my main PCs, although most of them "died" at least once and were resurrected or wished back to life by their fellow adventurers. Even though I was over 30 then I did now and again get a bit rash. Once when the DM was really lousy, Yrag threw himself on his sword in disgust. Murlynd, Robilar, Tenser, and Terik brought his corpse back and had him resurrected...with another person as the DM

    A fighter PC of mine in Brian Blume's campaign with a natural 18 strength, 17 constitution and 16 dexterity was killed before getting to 2nd level, lost and gone forever The same is true of a half-orc cleric-assassin PC of mine, but he got to 3rd level before biting the dust.

    Cheers,
    Gary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col_Pladoh
    Even though I was over 30 then I did now and again get a bit rash. Once when the DM was really lousy, Yrag threw himself on his sword in disgust. Murlynd, Robilar, Tenser, and Terik brought his corpse back and had him resurrected...with another person as the DM


    That's classic!

    Hey! BTW, who played Murlynd? I'm assuming the PC version is different than the Quasi-Deity found in the Greyhawk Glossography.

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