Centaur-kins

BOZ · May 7, 2004

comments?

Ferret · May 7, 2004

Actually thinking about it, this mix seems counter productive. The doppelganger half can no longer infiltrate, unless it infiltrates tauric creatures. Whereas the Displacer beast is a one creature killing machine. Now if the creature gains the Displacer beast mentality but the others intelligence fine, but I don't thinks thats how it works.

So it needs a new 'program', perhaps killing out of spite?

BOZ · May 8, 2004

Oh yeah, I have to agree that they are no longer what we think of as doppelgangers. That’s just fine!

they’re still plenty useful. Sure, they can’t infiltrate too many societies besides centaurs, wemics, and the like… but hell they can get around just about anywhere as a horse, or a big dog… (“quadruped” of course means anything that usually walks around on four legs…”)

And yes, killing out of spite might be a good idea too.

Derulbaskul · May 9, 2004

Some other ideas:

- gnoll/howler
- minotaur/gorgon (I used this in an FR game set in the Labyrinth and simply called him the Iron Beast)
- marilith/huge monstrous spider (handmaiden of Lolth)
- medusa/constrictor snake
- frost giant/frost worm (with sorcerer levels)
- hobgoblin/hell hound (a few fighter levels and spirited charge and you have a scary critter)
- azer/manticore
- nymph/constrictor snake
- dwarf or gnome/badger

Ferret · May 9, 2004

BOZ said:
Oh yeah, I have to agree that they are no longer what we think of as doppelgangers. That’s just fine! they’re still plenty useful. Sure, they can’t infiltrate too many societies besides centaurs, wemics, and the like… but hell they can get around just about anywhere as a horse, or a big dog… (“quadruped” of course means anything that usually walks around on four legs…”)

And yes, killing out of spite might be a good idea too.

Out of spite like in Dean kootz's watchers (with all that eye plucking).

Thri-kreen/chull.

Have I said that enough times now?

BOZ · May 10, 2004

well, i could do 15 of these at once, but i prefer one at a time.

tell you what, anyone want to start another thread and take cracks at some of the many ideas posted so far in this thread?

Shade · May 10, 2004

For spell-likes, I like mirror image and fear.

BOZ · May 11, 2004

How bout dat:
Spell-Like Abilities: At will – mirror image, suggestion (DC 14); 3/day – charm monster (DC 15), fear (DC 15). Caster level 10th. The save DCs are Charisma-based.

Now that we’ve decided on its powers, we can talk a bit about what this creature is like. Ferret suggested that it acts out of spite – well, a creature with that much hatred would seem to require a switch to an evil alignment (which is not out of the question). Or we could make them simple hunting carnivores like a displacer beast. Or, we could make them just plain deceitful like doppelgangers – the perfect spies and assassins, or just troublemakers who like to play with other creatures. Or we could combine some of these. Or make something entirely new up for them.

Shade · May 11, 2004

Spell-likes look good.

Since displacer beasts are already lawful evil, switching 'em to evil isn't too much of a stretch. I'd like to see a combination of spy/assassin and killing machine.