[Adult] Guide to Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, thread 2

ok, in no particular order here, spraying to all fields. . . . .

hentai guide or no. . . . . well, I would not mind a second book. Not becasue the rules are changed (they wont) but because we can preserve better the hard core from the merely just adult. However, any way you go, I will support.




Preface. . . . .I would like to question the inclusion of so much of the notes and anecdotes and prefaces from the first netbook---our book is so much more a new and original work, not simply a d20 update of the old netbook. We have completely new mechanics for Sex itself, the character classes and prestige classes, feats, skills, etc. I think we would be better off ditching some of the extraneous parts from the first book and writing a special dedication to those who cam before, as well as an acknowledgement paragrraph indicating which parts in the bew book did come from the old.


Sex Tricks--- the tricks mentioned by Merrior were part of an older system we were using, but i would not mind seeing some of those sex tricks come back and incorporated into the new system.

my thoughts for now. I will be out of town for a while and may not be back till nxt tuesday

Name: I would go for "Guide to Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" (it is neither a book nor complete and the layout is to good for one of those classical netbooks).

Preface: whoever wants to write it have a go. I just did the preface, because I included the preface to the first edition (thinking, that we would owe that much to the first creator. I allways thought of this work as an update, but you are probably right, that there are a lot of things that are our own now).

Dropping old Content: The Prostitute and Periodical Tables are just fun, the anecdotes, too (and I allways thought, that they gave a good idea, what you could do with the guide. I would drop them instantaneously if we had anecdotes ourself). The essay about homosexuals gives some insight and we got not much else about homosexuality.
The adventure ideas could be dropped for own ideas (but I think we should have some).
Spells: we could go for fewer spells with more "New Uses".
Credits for the old part: I just thought, that we had to credit these people and I just had no time to look throught their entries and the guide to see, who would stay and who not.

Hentai Guide: Sure, there will be a second guide. The question was more like: do we keep everything we got so far in the "normal" guide or will we drop some stuff and include it in the hentai version (how should we call this guide then? it should be named similar to the "normal" guide).

Letter or A4: do letter, Sorn (sorry, I just went with the format defaulted at my mashine)

Lets do those two Sex Tricks, that are missing.


Generator Sourcecode: I see no Problem with the sourcecode: we publish as PDF. Just copy the code and save it as html file.
On the other side, we still can put in the links to the pages (below the tables in the guide).


@Averil: you poor little saussage (some sayings just do not translate well (g)). The spells are a real pain.

As for the title, myself I prefer "Unlawful Guide to Carnal Knowledge", but you do what you want. It's your netbook, not mine.

Dropping old content: you could drop the magazine thing. Without Gutemberg engine, nor industrial paper production facility, I doubt these would exist.

Frankly, you imagine a bunch of gnolls or harpy cutting tree, transforming the wood into paper, taking photos, redacting articles, editing all that and then printing it on the paper they made ? That would be very fun... But totally out of place in a fantasy setting.

@Anabstercorian: Go ahead and knock yourself out and write that preface. I'll be looking forward to it.

Re: Dropping old content.
I am all for it. While the little stories are nice and fine, they take up a lot of room. And I for one have read them already 7 years ago, when I first found the guide. I would assume that other old-timers have done the same. We do provide links to the old version of the guide, so people could check it out there. Plus, some of it is refering to old rules systems. However, I'd still say we give the original contributor's credit, as they inspired us to do this.

The prostitutes should definitely stay. The size charts can be used for just about anything, including PC's. The periodicals are pretty funny and should stay too. They don't really take up that much room anyway. And even if there was no mass-production of magazines in medieval times, there was porn all over the place back in Roman times. With magic, there could easily be some sort of publicly available porn. Hell, merchants could be selling one-shot magic items that reproduce a "Pornographic Glamer".

Re: Format
Letter it is then.

Re: Sourcecodes
I know you can copy and paste out of pdf's, however, how many people are actually going to create a page on their own with it instead of just going to the site? Even if they do copy and paste it out of the pdf, they will do that once, and then print out the complete guide, with several pages of code they will not need in their hardcopy. In any case, it gave me fond flashbacks of PC Game magazines in the mid-80's that had the complete code for new games in them. Some of them had 10 pages worth of 2 column, 6pt code for you to type up. Ahh... those were the days...

Re: Name
Well, I think we should at least keep the UCK part intact (at least to keep the domain name correct).

If we really wanted to go all out, we could just name it "Sex d20", but WotC is trying to get trademark status for "D20", so you can't use it in the product title anymore...

than go ahead and drop the generators (sniff). Will put them up as zips. and give you the links to them.

Somehow I wish, we had more material that is not rules only content.

Since everybody seems to be discussing finishing up the main guide, talking about what to keep and what to remove, I've been looking through the guide in more detail and have started to to notice that there are a fair number of inconsistencies like the one I pointed out concerning the Controller prestige class...

Anybody else want to start going through and nitpikcing a bit for such things so we can get them sorted?

@kolvar: What sorts of things to do you want written up? NPCs, organisations, places? I've a couple of things in rough aroudn here somewhere, but I'm not certain they are the sort of thing that you want.


One last note: I've been going over the Sweet Tongue class I posted to try and make it more viable as a choice. Does anybody think that shift the hit dice to d6 (in line with a Bard) and increasing the Silver Tongue bonuses to +2, +4, +8 improve things at all?

@Merior: NPC & organization writeups sound great. A harem guild or a company of gay adventurers could be a lot of fun. Maybe some details for a brothel, festhall or temple to a lust deity. IMO, stuff like this would be a lot more useful than the handful of plot ideas we have right now.

Also, as far as homosexuality goes, apart from the adventure hooks, there's not really much there. Granted, there aren't really sex rules effects that would work differently in a same-sex scenario.

I've been noticing a few things that are out of order as well as I was getting started on the layout.

I'll compile a list once I get deeper into it.

Something which is missing in the version I got from Averil is a chart that lists the Difficulty of Pregnancy & Birth by race, Same goes for Ovulation by race.

@Averil: I noticed that the chapter on pregnancy was cut down quite a bit, especially the section on "Outside Effects". Also there are large cuts in the disease chapter. Are those going to be back in the next draft version?

Double-post

I think the big cuts in the pregnancy section you're talking about are where I condensed a bunch of stuff that was repeated, either in our own book or that could actually be found in the core rules (if I'm remembering correctly).

If there was some glaring hack you think I made, please let me know, as I've completely missed it - and I hope I didn't cut something by accedent!

Also, all the code is now cut.

@Averil: In the pregnancy section, it just seems to be condensed. I just glanced at what you sent me and glanced at the version that's up on the site... Sorry about that. Certain things have been cut (like Planar Travel), but those sections didn't really have anything relevant to say anyway.

In the disease section, there have been pretty big cuts, which are not duplicated in the Core Rules. The following items are missing:

-Random Determination of Who is Diseased
-most of the magical STD's (Fiery secretion, orgasmic monster summoning, Mummy Crotch Rot, etc.) and a few of the mundane STD's. For those that have been renamed, it would probably be helpful to put the real-life names into the flavor text. But I have to agree that Satyr's Taint sounds a lot more "fantasy" than Enlarged Scrotum Syndrome.