The Orville Season Two - Thoughts?

Zardnaar

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• Feb 15, 2019

• #131

I thought it was a great episode. Clever social satire is how to do it.

 

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Zardnaar

Legend

• Feb 15, 2019

• #132

Morrus said:

I can never work out when US shows are on. We get criticised for short series, but we show them from start to finish. With US shows it seems to be two weeks on, three weeks off, one week on, a week off, two more weeks off, two weeks on... sometimes I’ve actually forgotten shows exist and suddenly rediscover them a year later!

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A British show that has more than 6 episodes is a long UK season for me. Quality over quantity.

Still Blackadder was so good.

 

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Dannyalcatraz

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• Feb 15, 2019

• #133

5 word review: Roddenberry would have been proud.

 

Ryujin

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• Feb 15, 2019

• #134

Dannyalcatraz said:

5 word review: Roddenberry would have been proud.

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I would tend to agree. I'm not really warming up to the character of Talla, at least not yet, but that was a good episode in the Star Trek:TNG style, holodeck and everything.

 

Morrus

Well, that was fun

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• Feb 15, 2019

• #135

It was good, but wasn't the last episode a romance plot? And this one was essentially two simultaneous romance plots (with a murder mystery added in). I'm hoping for some action next week!

 

CapnZapp

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• Feb 15, 2019

• #136

For a brief moment I went "oh noes, another syrupy story". Bortus and Kelly both.

Then it turned out to be clever and interesting!

Of course with that said the attraction between the two aliens got zero development, but I am understanding nevertheless. If they wanted to earn her tears at the end, they would have had to set up their relationship in a separate episode, and I think it was a reasonable priority to skip that.

That said, this episode provided at least two chances of seeing a Moclan wrestle a Xelayan, and they squandered both: first romantically as a much more likely pastime (why would an interspecies pair ever go for the nostalgia of an unrelated third species??). Then when the Engineer could have tried to overpower Talla in the shuttle.

 

Zardnaar

Legend

• Feb 15, 2019

• #137

Well Talla at least got a plotline and she is still a new character.

 

Dannyalcatraz

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• Feb 15, 2019

• #138

Morrus said:

I'm hoping for some action next week!

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Ryujin

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• Feb 15, 2019

• #139

CapnZapp said:

For a brief moment I went "oh noes, another syrupy story". Bortus and Kelly both.

Then it turned out to be clever and interesting!

Of course with that said the attraction between the two aliens got zero development, but I am understanding nevertheless. If they wanted to earn her tears at the end, they would have had to set up their relationship in a separate episode, and I think it was a reasonable priority to skip that.

That said, this episode provided at least two chances of seeing a Moclan wrestle a Xelayan, and they squandered both: first romantically as a much more likely pastime (why would an interspecies pair ever go for the nostalgia of an unrelated third species??). Then when the Engineer could have tried to overpower Talla in the shuttle.

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With or without the relationship angle, the fact that her devotion to duty and personal morals placed her in a position in which she had to destroy the life of a member of a victimized minority gave the story power.

 

Dannyalcatraz

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• Feb 16, 2019

• #140

I wonder how things would have shaken out if the faked death had actually been as it initially seemed.

A murder conviction would have left Bortus as a single parent, a warrior raising his kid in a ship of aliens who don’t get his culture...

Wait...that’s Whorf & Alexander.