Survivor Subclasses (Gish Edition)- IT IS OVER!

TiwazTyrsfist

Adventurer

• Mar 21, 2018

• #51

Arcane Trickster 25
Beast Master 8
Eldritch Knight 21
Gloom Stalker 22
Horizon Walker 17
Hunter 20
Oath of the Ancients 24
Oath of Conquest 12
Oath of the Crown 16
Oath of Devotion 18
Oath of Redemption 20
Oath of Vengeance 18
Monster Slayer 18

 

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Gradine

The Elephant in the Room (she/her)

• Mar 21, 2018

• #52

Arcane Trickster 25
Beast Master 8
Eldritch Knight 21
Gloom Stalker 22
Horizon Walker 17
Hunter 20
Oath of the Ancients 25
Oath of Conquest 12
Oath of the Crown 16
Oath of Devotion 18
Oath of Redemption 20
Oath of Vengeance 18
Monster Slayer 16

 

Paul Farquhar

Legend

• Mar 21, 2018

• #53

Eltab said:

I've always had an in-world problem with the "see how Evil I can be!" anti-Paladin class. Because the other Paladins would zero in on him and punish him for giving them all a bad name.
A "fallen Paladin" should be a Zealot - he thinks he's still doing good, but anybody else can see that he's not.

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Don't want to derail the game, but that's not what a Blackguard was. Paladins in 1-3rd edition where servants of the gods of law and goodness. An antipaladin was the equivalent servant of an evil god or dark power. Pretty close to what a warlock is in 5e, but more fightery. If a dark power could corrupt a paladin that was great, but it wasn't the only way to become a Blackguard.

Obviously Paladins hate Blackguards and visa versa, pretty much the same way gnomes hate kobolds.

To see how one functions in an not-necessarily evil party, investigate the character Dorn in Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition.

 

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Yardiff

Adventurer

• Mar 21, 2018

• #54

Arcane Trickster 25
Beast Master 8
Eldritch Knight 21+1=22
Gloom Stalker 22
Horizon Walker 17
Hunter 20
Oath of the Ancients 25
Oath of Conquest 12
Oath of the Crown 16
Oath of Devotion 18
Oath of Redemption 20
Oath of Vengeance 18-2=16
Monster Slayer 16

 

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Adamant

Explorer

• Mar 21, 2018

• #55

Arcane Trickster 25
Beast Master 8
Eldritch Knight 22
Gloom Stalker 22
Horizon Walker 17
Hunter 20
Oath of the Ancients 25+1=26
Oath of Conquest 12-2=10
Oath of the Crown 16
Oath of Devotion 18
Oath of Redemption 20
Oath of Vengeance 16
Monster Slayer 16

 

Eltab

Lord of the Hidden Layer

• Mar 21, 2018

• #56

Paul Farquhar said:

Don't want to derail the game

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I agree, so I'll be brief.

An antipaladin was the equivalent servant of an evil god or dark power.

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I spent a few years away from D&D (family, real life, job, &c took priority).
When I really turned to 3e/3.5 with great interest, there were already rules for CG Paladin of Freedom, LE Paladin of Tyranny, and CE Paladin of Anarchy. So to me the Blackguard occupied the niche "behold the vastness of my vile Evil-ness!"

 

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Chase Skylark

First Post

• Mar 21, 2018

• #57

Arcane Trickster 25
Beast Master 8-2=6
Eldritch Knight 22
Gloom Stalker 22
Horizon Walker 17
Hunter 20
Oath of the Ancients 26+1=27
Oath of Conquest 10
Oath of the Crown 16
Oath of Devotion 18
Oath of Redemption 20
Oath of Vengeance 16
Monster Slayer 16

3 paladins stumble upon a revel in the woods. Everyone is having a glorious time, laughing, dancing and enjoying life.

The Devotion paladin says "I must guard this place so that evil cannot come near this bastion of light."

The Vengeance paladin says "We must go forth and destroy all evil in this area, so that they may enjoy themselves safely."

The Ancients paladin looks at both of them incredulously and says "Wow... You guys are buzzkills. I'ma go have a beer."

(Paraphrased, apologies if I got it wrong)

 

StormbringerAUS

Explorer

• Mar 22, 2018

• #58

Arcane Trickster 25
Beast Master 8
Eldritch Knight 22
Gloom Stalker 22
Horizon Walker 17
Hunter 20 - 2 = 18 I like the hunter but feels more like an Archer than a Gish
Oath of the Ancients 26 + 1 =27
Oath of Conquest 10
Oath of the Crown 16
Oath of Devotion 18
Oath of Redemption 20
Oath of Vengeance 16
Monster Slayer 16

 

Harzel

Adventurer

• Mar 22, 2018

• #59

Corrections -
1) [MENTION=6921763]DM Dave1[/MENTION] votes were overwritten, but his downvote was for Oathbreaker, which is now toast anyway.
2) [MENTION=6939040]Chase Skylark[/MENTION] votes were lost

Arcane Trickster 26
Beast Master 6
Eldritch Knight 22
Gloom Stalker 22
Horizon Walker 17
Hunter 18
Oath of the Ancients 28
Oath of Conquest 10
Oath of the Crown 16
Oath of Devotion 18
Oath of Redemption 20
Oath of Vengeance 16
Monster Slayer 16

 

Harzel

Adventurer

• Mar 22, 2018

• #60

Arcane Trickster 26
Beast Master 4
Eldritch Knight 22
Gloom Stalker 22
Horizon Walker 17
Hunter 18
Oath of the Ancients 28
Oath of Conquest 10
Oath of the Crown 16
Oath of Devotion 18
Oath of Redemption 20
Oath of Vengeance 17
Monster Slayer 16