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Old 11th August 2007, 09:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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360 or PS3?

My wife just recently purchased some expensive purchases, so now I'm cashing in my cards and playing my leverage. So the big question I need to ask is should I get the more affordable 360 or pony up for the PS3? I have a nice tv so I'd like to utilize that, but it's not a necessity.

I've been told that the 360 is a lot better, and the numbers would agree. What is it, like 10 million 360s have been sold whereas less than 2 million PS3s have shipped out? But I can't deny the pull to Sony. I'm not really looking to store extra media on my systems either, no shows or movies or music. Just games.

So, assuming I buy one or the other, what are the must have games for each system?
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Old 11th August 2007, 09:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Right now, the games are on the 360, no question. But the PS3 stuff is coming soon. I own both.

What kind of TV do you have? Plasma/LCD? Size? Can it view 1080p?
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42" LCD 1080i; no p unfortunately. And the differential between the games is due to the fact that the 360 has been out much longer, isn't it? Or is there more to it that I am unaware?
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Most upcoming 3rd party stuff will be on both the 360 and PS3. There are some exclusives (like Mass Effect for the 360), but they are a lot rarer than in the past generation.

You should really look at their 1st party stuff to see which you want.

Anyway, if you get a 360, I would wait a little while for the newer 65nm model (they also come with an HDMI port) which should be a lot more reliable.
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There's also the interesting stuff where the PS3 is harder to develop, so some of the PS3 stuff is just worse than the 360 stuff. (FEAR for instance, and a couple others I forget off hand)

Most of the games that are on both systems are pretty close in quality, so you're not losing much there anyway.

PS3 has Bluray.

If you do get a 360, the 65nm chipset would be a good wait, but probably not essential. I would say it's a sure thing you want the HDMI model though (it's listed on the box).

Exclusives depend on what you want to play. Mass Effect, Halo3, Gears of War / Resistance, Lair, Heavenly Sword
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Just to jump into someone else's thread...

when are the new 65nm 360s hitting shelves?

Mass Effect is really really tempting me, and I'm gonna finally have a TV by then.
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when are the new 65nm 360s hitting shelves?
Looks like they're showing up now. Basically any Premium with an HDMI port (it'll say so on the box) is probably a 65nm model (there are apparently a small number of exceptions, but that was apparently a pretty short run; anything built now is a 65nm model).
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Just to jump into someone else's thread...

when are the new 65nm 360s hitting shelves?
theoretically they're out, but remember that availability depends on the rotation of stock and such.

From joystiq, it seems the info you want is right on the box;

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/10/sp...ium-at-retail/

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http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/10/wa...ffect-preview/
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LCDs can't display 1080i. In fact, only CRTs can display 1080i. Now, most LCDs, DLPs and Plasma's can ACCEPT 1080i, but they will only (and CAN only) display at their native resolution and refresh rate.
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42" LCD 1080i; no p unfortunately.
Ah, not a big deal that there is no 1080p on that model. You wouldn't even be able to tell the difference until you get to a 50 inch screen. Bottom line: You are good to go!

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And the differential between the games is due to the fact that the 360 has been out much longer, isn't it? Or is there more to it that I am unaware?
That is the biggest reason, but there are other factors as you would expect.

Either way, I agree with Vocenoctum - go with the exclusives and see what is coming out down the line. History will point towards the PS3 getting a better variety in the long run but that isn't confirmed. If you are buying a system for right now just for games get the 360. But, if you want to watch Blu-Ray movies and like games like the jPRG genre go with the PS3. That said, what kind of games do you like? That's a big factor as well because the 360 has an excellent selection of FPS & racing games, with more on the way.
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For the most part the games I play are sports and RPGs. On my ps2 (I never got around to getting the xbox) I have pretty much the entire EA sports line. One game on my "must have" list is Oblivion, but I could always get that for my pc. After that, I don't really have any queued up.

Which console runs smoother? I know the 360 was having a lot of glitches and the RRoD, but they've got that full warranteed now, so I'm not too concerned. I haven't heard much about the ps3's performance really.
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For the most part the games I play are sports and RPGs. On my ps2 (I never got around to getting the xbox) I have pretty much the entire EA sports line. One game on my "must have" list is Oblivion, but I could always get that for my pc. After that, I don't really have any queued up.
Well, Oblivion is out on both the 360 and the PS3 as well.
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Which console runs smoother? I know the 360 was having a lot of glitches and the RRoD, but they've got that full warranteed now, so I'm not too concerned. I haven't heard much about the ps3's performance really.
I'm not sure of the glitchs you mention, the RRoD is an odd one, since failure rates are never really listed.

That said, like I mentioned, there are plenty of games that run better on the 360 than the PS3, just because of familiarity and ease of programming. I think oblivion ran better on the PC then the 360 and better on the 360 than the PS3, and FEAR is the same way.
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We'll assume that for now I'm only going to get Oblivion (which I probably would want to get for the console) and some sport games. I probably won't do too much Bluray, if any at all, so I'm better off with a 360 Elite with HDMI port and 65nm?
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Go with the Xbox 360, hands-down.

There are a greater percentage of cross-platform titles this time around than in the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube generation, but the overwhelming majority of those cross-platform titles are being developed primarily on Xbox 360. The PS3 and 360 are probably pretty comparable in terms of technological performance, each having some benefits and limitations, but the 360 has a much more robust set of development tools and requires far less effort to get games up and running at an acceptable level of performance.

All of EA's "next-gen" games, for example, are developed primarily on the 360, even though the PS3 version is being developed concurrently. The PS3 versions are almost always lagging behind in performance -- and often significantly so. The Xbox 360 is less expensive to buy too.

Game developers go where the market share is, and with 10 million 360s (and Wii sales rapidly closing in on that figure) and 4 million PS3s, the 360 is more likely to pick up the killer exclusives. Even your stalwart Sony franchises like Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy XIII have been rumoured to eventually come to the 360 if the PS3 doesn't start selling a lot better in short order.

In the end it comes down to the exclusives, and I certainly think the 360 has the best exclusives. Mass Effect is enough to seal the deal for me.
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