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Thought I'd see if anyone had any thoughts other than stealing my way back to neutral Karma. (which may or may not even work...)
I'm trying to finish the Blood Ties quest but Talon mercs are waiting for me in Arefu. As soon as I get within encounter distance they aggro, then kill one of the townspeople, which sets the town to Hostile against me and fails the quest.
You're in a bind, depending on where you are, it can be quite tedious to try to get to neutral karma. What you might want to do is go to an earlier save and pop up somewhere else until they come, kill them there. then go to the location you need. I have never seen the talon mercs appear at two locations. Another thing you can do is pop up in a location thats nearby where you want to be, fire from long range and draw their fire.
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I'm trying to finish the Blood Ties quest but Talon mercs are waiting for me in Arefu. As soon as I get within encounter distance they aggro, then kill one of the townspeople, which sets the town to Hostile against me and fails the quest.
Eesh.
Only thing I can suggest? Level up a bit and build up your small arms/sneak skill. Try to attack one of them at extreme range with manual shooting and run. If you can find one, use the Sniper rifle or Scoped Magnum as they have a high level of zoom. Hopefully you can get them to run after you while you're still beyond their firing range.
Alternatively, find a Stealthboy. This makes you VERY hard to see. Combine with a melee weapon (NOT a ripper) and knife them in the back before they can open fire. It's tough, but possible.
Also, so long as they dont kill any of the townsfolk, if you run and come back a few days later, they might not like you, but they wont have 'Shoot on sight' scripted anymore either. Try doing some Good Karma related quests in the meantime.
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this game... Here are a few things that struck me as useful:
1) There is a max percentage you can repair things based on your Repair skill. It seems to be higher if you fix a low % item with a high % item instead of the opposite. So, fixing a 10% with a 60% is better when maxing out.
2) If a lock can be picked OR hacked, you can still hack the computer after you pick the lock for more XP. The reverse is not true.
3) You can usually disarm mines by crouch-walking up to them while keeping the cursor on the mine, even with a very low Explosives skill. The trick is to keep moving forward, as you have a very short time between the beeps and the boom. Hit the disarm key as soon as the square brackets appear.
3b) Mines make great markers in tunnels -- they glow, you can't set them off yourself, and they guard your back if you bypass doors and/or tunnel mouths.
4) PIPBoy pausing can be seriously exploited in combat. You can actually repair armor and weapons, or put on medical garb to give yourself meds more effectively. Feel free to eat 20 or so food items, while you're at it.
5) Pick up EVERYTHING. Feel free to drop the junk into the nearby trash can, but I've collected a fair number of unexpected things like skill books or energy cells that were quasi-hidden among piles of ruined books or tin cans. I also dump out any wooden boxes, pots, etc., even if they seem empty at first glance. Takes a little time, but there are some surprises. Using the flashlight also helps (hold TAB on the PC to turn it on -- took me FOREVER to figure that out 'cause I missed it in the tutorial).
6) Cars aren't the only things that explode. So do floor cleaners, and fire extinguishers. Also, mines and grenades lying around will go off, especially under flamer or missile fire. Traps can be set off by fire or even objects kicked into tripwires (by you or by others). Usually, this is not to your advantage unless you're being clever. There is one quest you can get in Megaton from Sarah Palin's twin sister where this is REALLY annoying -- you know it if you've played it.
7) Try all the custom items at least once -- there is a schematic for every category of weapon other than energy. Trust me -- sometimes it is freakin' hysterical.
8) Find the roving trader's outfit and hat -- together you get +10% to barter, which is free money. You only have to wear it when you talk to merchants, of course.
9) House tips: the Lover and Science themes for your apartment include skill books, which are a limited commodity in the game. The other themes aren't worth the caps. Also avoid the jukebox, as it does the same exact thing as your PIPBoy, i.e., plays the radio. (If you're drowning in caps, go ahead and splurge -- thievery can make that possible.) Also, don't forget to go back to your robot butler for purified water periodically. Besides the rad-free hp boost, you can also give it to beggers to counteract negative karma.
10) Things to almost always buy: schematics, house upgrades (see 9), ammo (especially the rarer types like .308 or .44 if you use the related weapons), heavily damaged armor and weapons for repairs, bobby pins. Most other things you will easily stumble across in your travels. Some things like skill books and Nuka-Cola Quantums are almost never available for sale. Why waste money buying a 75-cap fission battery when you can go out and waste a robot that will have one as loot? Hold onto pre-war money until you find something you really want, as it weighs nothing. Stimpaks are also good weightless commodities, though you don't usually want to sell them.
OK...enough with the tips.
One last thing, though. I lived in the DC area for many years, and I have to say that while the game setting is off in some very important ways, the guys at Bethesda have done a great job of getting the feel of DC down. From the hexagonal tiles in metro stations, to the view from Dupont Circle, to the placement of most things in relation to each other -- things feel right, with only a few exceptions (looking at you, Georgetown!).
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Thought I'd see if anyone had any thoughts other than stealing my way back to neutral Karma. (which may or may not even work...)
I'm trying to finish the Blood Ties quest but Talon mercs are waiting for me in Arefu. As soon as I get within encounter distance they aggro, then kill one of the townspeople, which sets the town to Hostile against me and fails the quest.
Save before you fast-travel.
Or commit some bad deeds out there until you gain Neutral Karma. There's always that addict Silver living inside Springvale, or the thirsty dude just outside of Megaton.
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The GECK is out! Let the modding frenzy begin!
Cool, I'll jump on the playstation store and and downloa... oh wait.. we got screwed. Nevermind
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*groan!*
just something so...wrong about that and some of the other tunes as you lay waste to the place and limbs get bown off, lol!
I know the thematic of Fallout Universe, but much rather have AC/DC, the Stones and Motorhead as the radio tunes!
I think it'd be pretty cool if all games let you put in your own soundtrack or songs. I don't think I'd take advantage of it very often, but I agree, listening to big band music as heads explode is a little weird.
Ok, someone just told me that Santa Clause was not real.
Seriously.
I have been in love with this game, and after doing everything possible (and knowing that the ps3 won't have content) i decided to beat the game, expecting a phenomenal ending.
What a let down. Not just a let down, but an enormous let down. I saw 3 different endings, all horribly disappointing.
I warn you ... all of you... don't beat the game... don't ruin whatever good image you have of the game. I was so upset i woke up this morning and traded mine end.
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Heh - I found myself singing one of the songs from Fallout 3 the other day. I could have understood it if the song was Butcher Pete or Civilization... but Let's Go Sunning?!!!
Let's go native, sun your cares away.
Be creative, learn to laugh and play....
Pretty flowers need the sun,
This applies to everyone....
Gah!
The Auld Grump
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The midship mite,
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I picked this up after Christmas. While I can see the ties to Oblivion (just because of the game engine), it really does feel like Fallout to me.
Just being myself (I'm level 8), I'm a total goody-two-shoes. Fortunately, I lost some Karma when I wiped out Andale just 'cause I thought those cannibals were freakin' creepy. And of course, after working with the Ghouls and the inhabitants of Tenpenny tower to help the two groups live in harmony, I had to pop a cap in Tenpenny's wrinkled ass 'cause he's the MFer who put the contract out on me. heheh I got positive Karma for that one.
Moira in Megaton totally reminds me of someone from Fargo. She just has that Minnesota accent and is just so chipper about everything. I've heard some people compare her to Sarah Palin, but I think she's just too creepily into her research for that.
Can't wait to get that Fatman launcher, though. I've already started stockpiling the mininukes.
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Heh - I found myself singing one of the songs from Fallout 3 the other day. I could have understood it if the song was Butcher Pete or Civilization... but Let's Go Sunning?!!!
Let's go native, sun your cares away.
Be creative, learn to laugh and play....
Pretty flowers need the sun,
This applies to everyone....
Gah!
The Auld Grump
For those that are interested, a list of songs and lyrics from Fallout 3
I have been in love with this game, and after doing everything possible (and knowing that the ps3 won't have content) i decided to beat the game, expecting a phenomenal ending.
What a let down. Not just a let down, but an enormous let down. I saw 3 different endings, all horribly disappointing.
Sad but true.
I put 120 hours into this game. The first time I've done that in who knows how long. And it has the WORST video game ending of all time.
The amount of suck rolled into this ending is unbelievable. Railroady, contradictory, anticlimactic, short and ugly.
GAH.
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Hey, sorry if this isn't the correct place to ask this but will my socket 939 PC run this game decently? I have read so many conflicting things about what system specs work or don't work I'd like to hear directly from people who actually play the game. Here's my hardware (again, this is a socket 939):
Athlon 3800+ dual core (2.0 GHz)
XP Pro w/SP2
2 Gigs of OCZ Platinum PC3200 RAM
7200 SATA hardrive
9600GT 512 mb DDR3 video card
* My LCD maximum resolution is 128-x1024 which is where I like it anyway
Rl'Halsinor, that should be fine, as far as I'm aware. The 9600GT is a solid card, and that's the most important component, beyond having the minimum CPU and RAM, and space to install it, obviously.
If you've played Oblivion on it, that'd be a fair gauge. Maybe not precisely the same reqs, but close enough, I suspect.
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