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Old 28th October 2008, 07:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Fallout 3 - Today's the day!

So who's got it? Any opinions?

My birthday is Friday so I think that's how long I have to wait yet...
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Old 28th October 2008, 07:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Getting it after work. Totally pumped. Been a long time since I played Fallout and Fallout 2!

By the way, quick question to anyone who might know - can you play a female character? I can't remember if that was an option in the first two installments. I ask because my wife's recently gotten into RPGs and usually has more interest when she can customize her character a little bit.
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Old 28th October 2008, 08:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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My birthday is this Thursday, and I await the cornucopia of EB gift cards that shall rain down upon me. This is likely one I'll pick up, now that I've read the reviews.

[Yes, you can play a female character.]
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Old 28th October 2008, 08:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks!

Any negative outliers in the reviews? If so, what's the major complaint?
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Old 28th October 2008, 09:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
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My major complaint was that my bobblehead came off his base and had to be re-glued.

Hopefully, that's my last complaint (still installing the game).
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Old 28th October 2008, 09:32 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Being european, I still have to wait for thursday. But it should be waiting for me in the mail when I get home from work then...
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Old 29th October 2008, 04:22 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I've been looking forward to this game since 1998, so my expectations are high. I re-played Fallout 1 and 2 earlier this year for the first time since the early 2000's, and I'm really looking forward seeing the next installment. (By the way, regardless of the relative eye candy of modern computer games, the graphics of Fallout 1 and 2 surprised me - both games look excellent.)

I have to update my computer before I can play Fallout 3 though. Intel is releasing a new processor series - Core i7 - next month, and reviews should start popping up next week. This hardware will be really expensive unfortunately (especially now after the USD rally), so unless it gives extraordinary performance I'll build a new Core 2 system instead.
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Old 29th October 2008, 05:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Oh bother. According to all report, I can't play it. It requires at least an ATI X850 GPU and I have a mere X800.

Looks like it's time to upgrade the old video card again.
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Old 29th October 2008, 06:41 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I've been seeing glowing reviews. I stopped by a forum and saw complaints that some folks had "accidentally" broken or solved the main quest through some weird random wandering or something...
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Old 29th October 2008, 07:15 PM   #10 (permalink)
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My mini-review follows:

In a nutshell, Fallout 3 is the kind of game that makes me want to just lie down in a pile of game CD's and roll delightedly around in them. Metaphorically. The storyline is simple but compelling out of the gate, using family ties with a hint of darker mysteries and hidden agendas to drive the plot forward. However, the game's true strength is the 'genuine' feel of just being able to pick a direction and stride out into the wasteland, looking for trouble.

The graphics are gorgeous in the sense of openness the landscapes convey, and the level of detail they provide of this broken, scarred world. Granted, the scenic grassy forested vistas of Oblivion are gone, replaced by barren brown earth, scorched grey and black building husks and granite outcroppings...but this relative lack of color is more of a feature than a bug in my view. The world of Fallout is not a beautiful fantasy kingdom. It is an ugly, torn up, dead place...rendered in loving, awful detail. One thing I appreciated very much was that there's no 'backdrops.' When I climb a hill and look out and see the Capitol Dome way off in the distance, I know that if I spend enough time...and brave enough horrors...I can get there. This is probably old news for gamers nowadays, but I still remember when 3D games were built in "boxes" of closed space, with distant details just painted on the sides.

The appearances of creatures and characters have the same good points and bad points as Oblivion, unsuriprisingly. The details of textures are excellent. The animations...less so. Faces have limited range of expression, which jumps out a bit more since the voice acting is generally very good. To hear expressive voicing and not have it echoed on the faces is a little jarring, though this is not what I consider to be a major issue.

Gameplay is easy, especially for Oblivion grognards. The game can be played more or less identically once you learn the new hotkeys and get accustomed to the heavy involvement of firearms. The much-ballyhooed VATS system does add an entertaining new mechanic to the mix. I don't use VATS for every fight, but I find it invaluable against tough foes at relatively short ranges. When a supermutant with a two-by-four in its hands charges you, bust out VATS. The system offers some continuity with previous Fallouts, but more importantly, it automates the otherwise frustrating difficulty level of trying to fight in melee when you're being whaled on and knocked around and you can't aim your return blows. VATS works even with melee weapons, though you can't target body parts with it then. Sorry guys, no more punching mole rats in the eyes and making them explode.

The details of SPECIAL and perks and so on should be familiar to Fallout fans, and work the same way, with adjustments to fit the new mechanics. Perks are gained every level now, which I rather like. Certain skills are innately useful...noteably Repair which is used not only in many quests, but can also disarm traps (the components of which are sometimes very useful) and allow you to maintain your weapons by cannibalizing other weapons of the same type. This is a clever mechanic that means you'll always want to collect the weapons of your fallen foes, even if you already have one of the same kind. It also means that while you can find a laser pistol early in the game, you may only get a handful of shots out of it until you can get it fixed up. Repairs to weapons and armor are available from vendors too, but will cost ya. On a similar note, Speech is useful for unlocking quests and getting better rewards, and Science can get you all kinds of juicy info from the frequently encountered computer terminals you'll find. Sometimes those terminals also allow you to take control of nearby security systems, like robots or automated turrets. Doing this can turn a difficult area into a cakewalk.

One unusual mechanic is radiation. The area you're in isn't radioactive anymore, but most of the water table is contaminated. This means that most food and water also has low levels of radiation in it. In game terms this means you can't just regain hit points for free. Stimpacks are safe, and can be found or bought. Sleeping is free, but not always safe, and you can only do it when you find something to use for a bed. You will find LOTS of food and drinks that heal you...but increase your radiation count. As your radiation count increases to toxic levels your attributes are penalized. If you rack up a big enough count, you'll die. Radiation doesn't go away unless you take a drug called RadAway, or get purged at a doctor's clinic. The system isn't too draconian...it takes a fairly large amount of consumption before you start getting penalties...but it makes resource management trickier and more interesting, as well as fitting the survival theme of the setting rather well.

All in all, a thoroughly enjoyable game.
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Old 29th October 2008, 07:54 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 30th October 2008, 05:10 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Mrs. Noah surprised me with an early b-day present and I've spent the past couple of hours enjoying Fallout 3! It's very Oblivion-y which is excellent in my opinion.
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Girlfriend just messaged that my copy arrived in the mail. Still 6 1/2 hours until I can get home though .
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Old 30th October 2008, 07:12 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Thanks for the mini-review, Shayuri. One thing I noted playing Fallout 1 & 2 was that playing a character that focused on non-weapon skills wasn't really viable. Sounds like I may have more options here to talk, sneak, and hack my way around problems.
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Old 30th October 2008, 08:01 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Yer welcome!

A point of warning though. Fallout 3 is still an action RPG...which means you'll need some kind of combat skill. It doesn't have to be astronomically high or even tagged, but you can't get by -completely- with noncombat.

Sneaking, especially with a Stealthboy, can make things easier. A stealthy headshot will decapitate just about anything, and if your target is alone when you do it, you can often not attract any more attention. This makes it possible to sneak around assassinating folks.

You can also just sneak around, but without a Stealthboy there will be places you can't go without exposing yourself, and the Stealthboys are limited use items. Hacking helps, but not every location has turrets and robots to use...and robots are pretty fragile, and probably won't singlehandedly wipe out your foes (though they make terrific distractions).

You can sometimes surrender to enemies by holstering your weapons, but I haven't tried that. Not sure if Speech skills come into play there or what.

These skills are all very important, don't get me wrong, but they won't make combat nonexistent. Just easier.
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Old 30th October 2008, 09:03 PM   #17 (permalink)
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My amazon Survival edition just showed up (2 days early and in time for the weekend!). The Pip Boy clock I got it for is actually cooler than what I though it was. You can actually wear it like your character does in the game, but it doesn't have any alarm fuctions.

It's crying out for someone to mod an iPhone into it to replace the clock display.
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Old 31st October 2008, 12:04 AM   #18 (permalink)
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So I had the day off today and found that somehow I ended up playing for like 7 hours. Yikes! It's very fun but I gotta ease up a bit!

edit: Oh, I am now in the market for a good FO3 info site, something akin to the Oblivion Wiki. Something that will allow me to learn about the game but will take care not to spoil things if I don't want to be spoiled. (I clicked on a random FO3 site last night and within one click I was on a screen that had a very, very spoiler-filled sentence on it that I had not anticipated! ). Suggestions welcome.

Also, is there something you can buy or make that will shed light (a torch or lantern or flashlight)? I'm getting tired of really dark areas where I'm possibly missing good loot...
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Your Pip-Boy has a flashlight in it. Hold down on the Tab key to activate it.
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Old 31st October 2008, 12:22 AM   #20 (permalink)
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