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And there you go, right at the heart of the matter: you're dug into your position and aren't going to budge an inch. What've we got left to discuss in this little threadjack?
Yeah, pretty much. I don't think there's anything to discuss on the matter. AFAIC, the meaning of "exclusive" is self-evident.
I'm more interested in the original thread subject. It was unfortunate this little sidetrack even happened.
Three words, buddy: pot, kettle, black. Given your own grandiose assertions about what everyone in the gaming industry does or doesn't think, you ought to spare me your accusations of hubris. Reality check: if you're gaming on every console and six different PC's, you're pretty much an aberration, not part of a demographic. So, unless you wish to contend that your Batcavesque setup is representative of the norm, what good does presenting it really do in terms of contradicting anything I've said?
Kindly accept that most people do have preferences of some kind. Maybe there are some guys who own an Xbox 360 but would rather wait for GoW2 to be ported to PC, but they're a negligible bunch. And they're windmill-tilters to boot, because no PC port for GoW2 is forthcoming--it's exclusive even by your standards. But if there was a port in coming in six more months, the 360 owners are by and large not going to wait, and that's borne out by how badly the PC port of GoW1 sold.
I *think* that GoW1 on PC was supposed to have been really, really buggy at release, and that may have contributed to low sales. Further, I'd suspect that the majority of people who were in the market for that game likely got it on 360, long before it came out on PC.
I've got the 360, PC, PS3, and PSP, and frankly, the only one that gets much use is the 360, and I used to be an avid PC gamer. I've rather grown to like sitting in front of a 50" TV, with full surround sound, instead of in my office in a business chair
Maybe what people are getting hung up is what exclusive means.
Does it mean that a game is only on a single platform? Or does it mean that a game is only available on a single *console*?
There are still lots of games that are on one or the other. But it seems to me that PS3 is losing them faster. Could that be related to lower sales of that console?
I *think* that GoW1 on PC was supposed to have been really, really buggy at release, and that may have contributed to low sales. Further, I'd suspect that the majority of people who were in the market for that game likely got it on 360, long before it came out on PC.
Also GoW1, Halo, and Halo 2 all came out years after the originals were released on their respective platforms, basically throwing a bone to the PC crowd and nothing more.
Additionally, though I've only played the Halo port, each was supposedly considered a substandard port. I know the Halo port looked like crap compared to the original X-Box version and supposedly so did GoW. Mass Effect also, supposedly had pretty ridiculous system requirements, but it's all hearsay.
I think a compelling argument could be made either way.
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Don't know about release date but the game should be on the PS3 and 360.
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Top of my head, I'm looking the most forward to Uncharted 2 and God of War 3. I'm sure there are others, especially RPGs, that I'm missing but I'm a little out of the loop on future releases right now. Actually, the only game I've been "following" has been FFXIII.
Oh yeah, just thought of another one: Resident Evil 5.
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Mass Effect also, supposedly had pretty ridiculous system requirements, but it's all hearsay.
I can vouch for the fact Mass Effect's requirements aren't that bad. It runs fine, after some setting adjustment, on my non-gaming laptop (it does have a 8600M gfx card, tho).
Also, my excited for Killzone 2 has increased to the point I pre-ordered from Amazon (thanks, in part, to some gifts cards that were crying out for redemption).
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Anyone know when the Ghostbusters game is going to be released and if it'll be available for the PS3?
The current release date is June for PS3, 360, and PC.
Interesting that folks are getting excited about this one, as info about the actual nature of the gameplay is just starting to trickle in. I guess the license has some appeal for older gamers, but the thing is movie-license games have a longstanding tradition of being sub-par.
For me, Godfather II and Alpha Protocol are the games I'm really looking forward to. I always wanted to play a crimelord game where you actually have to make decisions like a boss. And Alpha Protocol seems to have a nice variety of weapons, and god how I love games where you can customize weapons!
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Mass Effect also, supposedly had pretty ridiculous system requirements, but it's all hearsay.
Well, I only played Mass Effect from the ones you listed, but it surely isn't just a bone thrown at the PC crowd. They have taken the time to work on the controls to make them PC worthy (i.e. good mouse/keyboard controls) and AFAIK they also made a few other improvements, which probably weren't possible like that on the weaker console technology.
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Yes, the PC version of Mass Effect featured improvements over the console. Honestly, while it's a good game, there's a lot of bugs and, worse, unfulfilled promises in ME.
Man, when this game was in development, Biohazard told us we'd get regular doses of DLC that would continue to expand the game's universe. Instead, we got one download. Just can't trust game developers these days.
Well, you know that it is a first part of a trilogy? There surely is more to come, but it takes time to develop such things (especially if they are also working on their MMO project).
Speaking of which, I havn't even looked at the downloadable content yet.
I found only minimal bugs, when I played the game. Some annoying crashes being the worst, but only few.
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The regular injections of DLC was supposed to fill the space between the sequels. They've just officially announced the ME sequel last week, and in all likelyhood no more DLC is forthcoming. It was just a plain old case of blowing their product up to be the Next Big Step Forward and then not delivering. ME was good, it just wasn't the evolutionary experience they claimed it would be.
The regular injections of DLC was supposed to fill the space between the sequels. They've just officially announced the ME sequel last week, and in all likelyhood no more DLC is forthcoming. It was just a plain old case of blowing their product up to be the Next Big Step Forward and then not delivering. ME was good, it just wasn't the evolutionary experience they claimed it would be.
Yeah, Mass Effect was good when they actually bothered to make a game experience; unfortunately, most of my time playing the game was spent on lifeless, generally hostile worlds driving around in a tank that weighs about twenty pounds and shooting evil robots without another soul in sight. Sometimes I would go into structures filled with boxes that all looked the same, and shoot people inside.
I have my worries about Dragon Age as well, since they're going with a similar setup for your character's role in the world. The Grey Guards seem, basically, to be exactly the same as the Spectres, only they use swords instead of guns. Making a character part of some elite military force seems to destroy the illusion of player choice and remove personal involvement. And I had thought that DA was going to be a PC exclusive, except now it isn't. So now I'm a little hesitant about DA:O, although playing through your origin story does sound pretty awesome.
Also, Batman: Arkham Asylum looks pretty sweet.
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Interesting that folks are getting excited about this one, as info about the actual nature of the gameplay is just starting to trickle in. I guess the license has some appeal for older gamers, but the thing is movie-license games have a longstanding tradition of being sub-par.
I played the demo at NYCC, and it was a lot of fun. That says nothing for the game as a whole, but for what anecdotal statements it is worth, I thought it was good.
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