Viridity and Saizhan (updated 10/16/09) - Page 21

Joshua Randall · 2nd February 2007, 05:42 PM

Er, yeah. Forgot about that.

And another thing: normal balors have Str 35, not Str 33 that is listed for Ainhorr.

Also, I can't get the normal balor's attack bonuses to work out either.

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Originally Posted by SRD

BALOR
Large Outsider (Chaotic, Extraplanar, Evil)
Hit Dice: 20d8+200 (290 hp)
Base Attack/Grapple: +20/+36
Attack: +1 vorpal longsword +33 melee (2d6+8/19–20)
Abilities: Str 35, Dex 25, Con 31, Int 24, Wis 24, Cha 26
Feats: Cleave, Improved Initiative, Improved Two-Weapon Fighting, Power Attack, Quicken Spell-Like Ability (telekinesis), Two-Weapon Fighting, Weapon Focus (longsword)

So: +20 (BAB) +12 (Str) +1 (Wpn Focus) +1 (magic sword) -2 (size) = +32.

Still off by one. What the heck?

Harlath · 2nd February 2007, 08:36 PM

The standard 3.5 Balor is Large, your size penalty is one too high. Easy to miss.

GoodKingJayIII · 2nd February 2007, 08:46 PM

[quote=Avarice]

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Originally Posted by GoodKingJayIII

Here's a bit of the scene in question. Still somewhat vague, really. The Kevin Bacon image works as well as any, I think.

Ok, ok... after reading the description, I suppose Kevin Bacon could play him in the Chronicles of Wyre movie.

But if he looks like Kevin Bacon, it's Kevin Bacon from Tremors. Not Kevin Bacon from Hollow Man.

Justin · 3rd February 2007, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GoodKingJayIII

Ok, ok... after reading the description, I suppose Kevin Bacon could play him in the Chronicles of Wyre movie.

But if he looks like Kevin Bacon, it's Kevin Bacon from Tremors. Not Kevin Bacon from Hollow Man.

Here he is in Stir of Echoes at age ~40, Tahl being late 30s:

Cheiromancer · 14th February 2007, 09:40 PM

I asked Harsh to color the picture of the Enforcer and, due to a miscommunication, he colored the second version (the more androgynous, waifish version), not the one I gave above. Here it is:

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Lela · 15th February 2007, 04:06 AM

I like it better.

Avarice · 15th February 2007, 10:33 AM

I'm with Lela on this one. She just seems more menacing in this version, to me. Maybe it's the combination of the waifish body with the dead black eyes and sadistic smirk. Makes me think she'd be the type to enjoy pulling the wings off of flies; or the arms off of wizards. Whatever it is, it's decidedly creepy. Harsh does good work.

Bloodcookie · 15th February 2007, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lela

I like it better.

Thirded. She looks more like the S&M schoolmarm I imagined her as

Cheiromancer · 15th February 2007, 03:16 PM

Here's the colored version of the other version. For some reason there is a "paint-by-numbers" appearance to it that, apparently, doesn't appear in photoshop. The skin color of her face appears blotchy to me. Does it to you guys? Does anyone know why this is, or how it could be fixed? (Would a tif be better than jpg?)

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Olive · 15th February 2007, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheiromancer

(Would a tif be better than jpg?)

Yeah, it would be. JPGs are compressed, TIFs aren't. Thr compression can lead to that sort of effect.

Lela · 16th February 2007, 08:25 AM

Could also do .png

Cheiromancer · 16th February 2007, 03:06 PM

I think he fixed the problem just by changing the shading a little. I think the face looks nicer on this one, even if the file size is even smaller than the previous one.

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Sepulchrave II · 16th February 2007, 04:34 PM

Both are outstanding; I think I prefer the second, though. Harsh is awesome. It's weird how the art generated by the SH has actually come to determine my own conception of the characters in it. Weird, but very good.

Thanks, Cheiro. Your unflagging support is much appreciated.

grodog · 23rd February 2007, 05:18 AM

Hey Sep, I'm travelling to CA again next week: does that mean the that stars are aligning for another update?

Salthorae · 24th February 2007, 11:18 PM

SO yeah.. I was trying to access the DogSoul forum to find the continuation of the Epic discussions, but got a "holding" webpage. Does anyone have the link to that or did it go down and I missed it?

Also, is there a compiled version of this SH? Chieromancer... you were working on something like that right?

Felix · 25th February 2007, 12:45 AM

Still alive?

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Originally Posted by Salthorae

SO yeah.. I was trying to access the DogSoul forum to find the continuation of the Epic discussions, but got a "holding" webpage. Does anyone have the link to that or did it go down and I missed it?

Also, is there a compiled version of this SH? Chieromancer... you were working on something like that right?

You're about 4 years behind the times there, Jimbo. Chieromancer's thread is thisaway.

Cheiromancer · 25th February 2007, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Salthorae

SO yeah.. I was trying to access the DogSoul forum to find the continuation of the Epic discussions, but got a "holding" webpage. Does anyone have the link to that or did it go down and I missed it?

Also, is there a compiled version of this SH? Chieromancer... you were working on something like that right?

Felix has the link to the SH. The epic discussions are still there, but nothing has been added to them for more than a month. You might want to check your forum settings to make sure they display older threads.

Salthorae · 2nd March 2007, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheiromancer

Felix has the link to the SH. The epic discussions are still there, but nothing has been added to them for more than a month. You might want to check your forum settings to make sure they display older threads.

Hmm, I guess what I meant by "compiled" was a PDF/ version to date

I do have the link to Cheiromancer's compiled SH, but I wanted to be lazy and hope that someone else had already done the copying and pasting necessary for me to have the wonderfulness on my home comp

If not, no worries! I still love this SH, especially since it's one of the few where if I leave the boards for over a year I can still keep up with!

Avarice · 2nd March 2007, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Salthorae

Hmm, I guess what I meant by "compiled" was a PDF/ version to date

I do have the link to Cheiromancer's compiled SH, but I wanted to be lazy and hope that someone else had already done the copying and pasting necessary for me to have the wonderfulness on my home comp

If not, no worries! I still love this SH, especially since it's one of the few where if I leave the boards for over a year I can still keep up with!

Well, you could always download Cheiromancer's thread as a text file (using thread tools). If you prefer something more readable, I seem to recall that Grodog has the compilation stored online in .doc form, um... somewhere. (Grodog? A little help here?)

Or if you'd like, I'd be happy to send you my compilation (also in Word), though I haven't gotten around to putting the Viridity updates in any kind of comprehensible order yet. My e-mail address should be in the profile.

Lela · 2nd March 2007, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Salthorae

Hmm, I guess what I meant by "compiled" was a PDF/ version to date

I do have the link to Cheiromancer's compiled SH, but I wanted to be lazy and hope that someone else had already done the copying and pasting necessary for me to have the wonderfulness on my home comp

If not, no worries! I still love this SH, especially since it's one of the few where if I leave the boards for over a year I can still keep up with!

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