Viridity and Saizhan (updated 12/25/09)

[Cheiromancer]

Here's something that I've been wondering about lately.

Are the heroes of Sep's SH losing their humanity? I don't mean whether their subtype is still [humanoid] or whether they have templates; I mean their outlook is no longer human.

I mean, Eadric is all beyond-good-or-evil, dating a succubus queen. (Well, I guess he *was* dating a succubus queen. Who knows what he's dating now.) He seems to have little fear of scandalizing peasants. Mostin has transcended humanity and become an eyelidless native outsider. He is obsessed with every greater transcendence. Ortwin is a sidhe, and so has the boredom/detachment issues of the fey, and is cross-gendered besides. If he's not feeling guilty about how he treated his wife, he should be. Nwm's world view seems to have been transformed, as is symbolized by the VoP he took. Mulissu is dead. Shomei is dead.

I have no idea how far the campaign has advanced beyond the point of the last update, but it seems that our heroes have gone so far beyond the conventional that they would no longer fit into society. Death, paradigm destroying experiences and great power have made them beyond human.

Thoughts?

[Moleculo]

I would definately agree. It seems natural though, that they would have to transcend typically human interests or else fall into ennui/nihilism (ie get tired of playing thier characters).

[Rackhir]

Originally Posted by Journeyman

WWMD? What would Mostin Do?

Ah young one, you obviously have not perused the sacred texts enough, for we already know the answer to this questions.

"If I were a political animal – which, of course, I am not, because that would violate the Great Injunction," he coughed, and stroked Mogus. "If I were, however, I would marry the Duchess, storm and secure the palace, assassinate the king, usurp the crown, and retroengineer all of my bloodlines to validate my claim to the throne. I would then begin to ruthlessly suppress any resistance to my rule, and have all of my chief rivals murdered. That’s the way it’s usually done, isn’t it? Except, in your case, you could claim divine right as well. I would declare myself Eadric I, Holy Emperor of Wyre and the Voice of Oronthon on Earth. I would unite Church and State into a single, seamless body. I would also issue commands to the effect that all avians must be shot on sight. A golden, birdless era of peace and prosperity would dawn across Wyre."

[Lela]

Originally Posted by Rackhir

I would also issue commands to the effect that all avians must be shot on sight. A golden, birdless era of peace and prosperity would dawn across Wyre."

All hail Mostin. May the birds fall from their great, and unearned, heights. All hail Mostin.

[Jarl]

In the earlier stages in the campaign, Eadric and the lot were confronted with entities like Titivilus which must have seemed alien to them at first.
From one perspective I think they have gotten closer to the paradigms of devils and other überhumane entities if they really have put their humanities behind to deal with the epic struggles personally. Take on Graz'zt in a face to face manner, instead of doing it so that life can go on in Morne or whatever. Do you understand, or think I'm wrong maybe?

[Shadow at the Edge]

Is it just me or has this thread been dead for about a year now, apart from a little 'dead cat bounce'?

[the Jester]

Originally Posted by Shadow at the Edge

Is it just me or has this thread been dead for about a year now, apart from a little 'dead cat bounce'?

Last update = 5/15/05.

Granted, it was a while before that one- but never give up hope.

[Cheiromancer]

July and November of 2004, thrice in May of this year. Maybe that should count as one big update. But, yeah.

[jmucchiello]

Originally Posted by Cheiromancer

July and November of 2004, thrice in May of this year. Maybe that should count as one big update. But, yeah.

Oy, that implies the time between updates is expanding: Jul-Nov = 4 months, Nov-May = 6 months, so the next update shouldn't occur until..... Dec. Ugh.

Hopefully the smileys don't become a symbol of irony in December....

[ForceUser]

Writing a neverending story is hard work, and at some point one just has to take a break. Sep's given us a lot of words for nothing in return. I, for one, am grateful for what he chose to share with us.

[Suldulin]

ditto, I still wish he would either:

Compile it into a novel, sell it, make money (I know I would buy it even with having read it here. . . I can imagine it now. . . getting the first book, holding it in my hands, touching the cover, breathing in that new book smell, it would be my precioussss)

I do not doubt that it would be bigger than the Wheel of Time, it's already better than that here.

Set up a donation thing, so that we may encourage him to write more or the like. . . :P

[William Ronald]

I thought I would take the time to do some rereading. I do have a quick question. Which thread has the resolution of the great battle. (I remember reading it, and that Graz'zt made his first appearance to Eadric via a gate.) Good updates, Sep. Hoperfully, we will see one soon.

[Fimmtiu]

Another point that I thought I'd mention... has anyone else noticed that the female characters in Sepulchrave's campaign seem to invariably come to bad ends? I mean, not that I'm criticizing Sep or anything; I just thought it was an interesting trend. Consider:

Soraine: Fried to a cinder by Rimilin, outside of Morne.
Nehael: Has her lips cut off, imprisoned in state of indescribable torture.
Mulissu: Murdered by her own daughter.
Iua: Possessed, forced to murder her mother, taken to the Abyss.
Shomei: Dies permanently somehow in the battle for Afqithan.
Soneillon: Ditto.
Nhura: Probably ditto.
Jetheeg: Probably ditto.
Threxu: Slain by Nwm.
Uzmi: Slain at Khu.
Nufrut: Trapped in a magic jar.
Breama: Killed at the battle of the Nund.
Melancholy: Divested of its wielder, eaten by a nature spirit.

And a cast of succubi too large to mention... seems like a succubus gets offed in practically every other post. I assume Nhura and her pals must have died in the Afqithan battle, or else Ortwine wouldn't be Queen there. Not yet sure what happened to Koilimilou or Tarva. Jalael has only just now appeared in person in the story, so it's too early to tell for her.

The only exceptions seem to be Mesikammi, who (as far as one can tell from the limited information in the Story Hour) seems to have disposed of Melancholy and then ridden off into the sunset with Hullu; and Hlioth, who seems undamaged by recent events. Did I leave any non-deific named characters out?

[Rackhir]

Originally Posted by William Ronald

I thought I would take the time to do some rereading. I do have a quick question. Which thread has the resolution of the great battle. (I remember reading it, and that Graz'zt made his first appearance to Eadric via a gate.) Good updates, Sep. Hoperfully, we will see one soon.

If you are talking about the battle in Afquitain. The one where Mostin had the massive dimentional lock and 20 or so Reality Storms going and had just summoned The Horror. It hasn't been posted. That was one of the things he apparently got hung up on in trying to write up the story hour. So he skipped over it to start this thread.

Originally Posted by Fimmtiu

Another point that I thought I'd mention... has anyone else noticed that the female characters in Sepulchrave's campaign seem to invariably come to bad ends? I mean, not that I'm criticizing Sep or anything; I just thought it was an interesting trend.

First off all of those characters are NPCs and most of them are enemies of Eadric and friends. Or at best very loosely allied (Sonellion and her sucubi). BTW, Nehael was freed shortly before the big battle in Aquiftain. Also most deaths are permenent in Sep's campaign. Ortwin/Ortwine only gets to keep coming back because he is friends with Nwm who is high enough to cast Reincarnate.

[Lela]

He'll toss out a True Reincarnate, which Sep has ruled allows Nym, as the caster, to choose what the recipient will come back as.