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Old 28th April 2008, 03:26 PM   #161 (permalink)
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Hmm. Seems I'll be doing Soldier/Scoundrel instead the Scout/Scoundrel I originally planned.
Now saying we all live through this, you can always add the scout levels in later, or the soldier levels. We just have to survive! :P
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Old 28th April 2008, 06:03 PM   #162 (permalink)
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Small Character Changes

Stat Switcheroo
I pulled 1 point from Wis over to Str so I can carry a little bit more and not have to worry.

Feat Switcheroo
I have switched out Precise Shot for Far Shot, which I think is more appropriate for my role. Over the next 2 levels I will pick up Precise Shot and Deadly Aim.

My new To-Hits should look like this:

+7 (+8) = BAB: +3 Dex: +3 WPN Focus: +1 (PB Shot +1)

[Scope] +8 (PB/S/M)/ +7 (L)/ +2 (EL)/ (PB/S/M: 3d8+5) (3d8+4)
[ 150/300-450 ]

[No Scope] +8 (PB/S)/ +7 (M)/ +2(/L)/ -3(EL) (PB: 3d8+5) (3d8+4)
[ 60/150-300-450 ]

Extreme Long Range and the Sniper Rifle
Perhaps I should drop the Extreme Long Range thing and stick with the Standard Sniper Modified (+2 to Dmg) + Scope. That combination makes me really, really effective without adding in the ELR. That is a really nice option to have and it would be quite a shame considering all of the work that we have gone through to get there. At this point with the numbers that I have currently obtained, I am not keen on having any penalty to hit.

What do you think?
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Old 28th April 2008, 06:44 PM   #163 (permalink)
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I think you should go with the standard Sniper rifle modified for the +2 damage. It was written for and only dropped from the Saga rules at the last minute due to space so we knowitis balanced.
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Old 28th April 2008, 07:23 PM   #164 (permalink)
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I agree with shalimar. And who knows, maybe one of the newer sourcebooks down the line will have new sniping tools for you!
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Old 28th April 2008, 07:29 PM   #165 (permalink)
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And you got a sandwich out of it too.Nisha said. “Our sandwiches come with attempted assassination plots. New sales gimmick!

"Chuck Norris is the reason Ilmater suffers."
by Simplicity in thread "Humor - Chuck Norris to be in the 4e Core Pantheon"

"English is not nice, comfy, orderly language. As others have noted - in dark alleys, it mugs other languages and rifles through their pockets for loose grammar. Do you think that after committing such molestation that English is going to be particularly prissy about where it sticks which plural?"
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Old 28th April 2008, 07:46 PM   #166 (permalink)
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I have switched out Precise Shot for Far Shot, which I think is more appropriate for my role. Over the next 2 levels I will pick up Precise Shot and Deadly Aim.
It's also helpful that we don't have any melee types so far, so Precise Shot is probably going to be less useful than it would be in a stereotypical Star Wars game (where you've usually got at least one Jedi with a lightsaber, and occasionally someone realizes exactly how combat effective a Wookiee with a vibro-ax is).
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It's also helpful that we don't have any melee types so far, so Precise Shot is probably going to be less useful than it would be in a stereotypical Star Wars game (where you've usually got at least one Jedi with a lightsaber, and occasionally someone realizes exactly how combat effective a Wookiee with a vibro-ax is).
Exactly, if I'm down to my stun baton, we're probably toast anyway.
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That is pretty much what I am thinking. I will not be picking up Sniper or Careful shot.

I am trying to fit in WPN Finesse and Advanced Melee WPS to fill a more Commando Sniper Role.
This is not easy to do. If only there was a feat I missed somewhere. Yeeaarrrggghhhh!

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It's also helpful that we don't have any melee types so far, so Precise Shot is probably going to be less useful than it would be in a stereotypical Star Wars game (where you've usually got at least one Jedi with a lightsaber, and occasionally someone realizes exactly how combat effective a Wookiee with a vibro-ax is).
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Exactly, if I'm down to my stun baton, we're probably toast anyway.
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And you got a sandwich out of it too.Nisha said. “Our sandwiches come with attempted assassination plots. New sales gimmick!

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"English is not nice, comfy, orderly language. As others have noted - in dark alleys, it mugs other languages and rifles through their pockets for loose grammar. Do you think that after committing such molestation that English is going to be particularly prissy about where it sticks which plural?"
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Old 28th April 2008, 08:03 PM   #169 (permalink)
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That is pretty much what I am thinking. I will not be picking up Sniper or Careful shot.

I am trying to fit in WPN Finesse and Advanced Melee WPS to fill a more Commando Sniper Role.
This is not easy to do. If only there was a feat I missed somewhere. Yeeaarrrggghhhh!
At least initially (depending on how many characters AMG accepts) we've got a pretty large party. It's really okay to pick one schtick and stick with it.
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True enough. I will not have to make any real decisions about that until 7+.
We will see how things take shape.
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Old 28th April 2008, 09:15 PM   #171 (permalink)
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Dave I feel your pain on the prestige class issue I would have preferred kay take a more face/actor prestige class ala "Face" from Wraith squadron but the only things prestige classes are for other than Criminal Mastermind is Weapons and the force. Wizards needs to put out non-martial feats and PrCs.
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Dave I feel your pain on the prestige class issue I would have preferred kay take a more face/actor prestige class ala "Face" from Wraith squadron but the only things prestige classes are for other than Criminal Mastermind is Weapons and the force. Wizards needs to put out non-martial feats and PrCs.
I wouldn't be surprised if some show up in Scum and Villiany (which sounds like it'd be Complete Scoundrel in D&D 3.5 parlence), or just maybe in the Campaign Guides (though both Force Unleashed and Knights of the Old Republic seem likely to have more Force-centric PrCs, if they introduce any).
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They need to balance things out, half of all of the PrCs are Force classes. All but 2 are Force/Combat Prcs and I don't know that I would really call the Officer a non-combat PrC. Normally I am against splat books, but when the only feats and PrCs availble are combat feats we splats as fast as possible.
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Alrighty, I've got a character's thread up now. Go ahead and post the stats for the PCs if I've gone over them and approved them. I'll end up getting HP rolled once we have all the PCs up so we can get that all done at once.

http://www.enworld.org/showthread.ph...37#post4192237

Going to close our recruiting out now, also...so this is who we've got.

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Exactly, if I'm down to my stun baton, we're probably toast anyway.
...I'll keep that in mind...

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True enough. I will not have to make any real decisions about that until 7+.
We will see how things take shape.
That's probably the best way to go. Get a feel for the character with this prologue and then you'll have a good idea of where you want to go with it from there, most likely. I find that its best not to plan ahead TOO much. Some helps, but its always good to leave things open.


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They need to balance things out, half of all of the PrCs are Force classes. All but 2 are Force/Combat Prcs and I don't know that I would really call the Officer a non-combat PrC. Normally I am against splat books, but when the only feats and PrCs availble are combat feats we splats as fast as possible.
This is probably one of those things that has had me resisting Saga the most. Beyond my general love for the Revised rules, there's just so much there already. From feats to Force Powers to PrCs, its very, very well fleshed out. The second I saw a Chief Engineer PrC was when I knew the game was ready to handle anything.

Hopefully we'll reach a comfortable point like that with Saga, but I'm not expecting it right away. Still a very new rule set, compartively, so sadly, we have to give it time.
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Rogues Gallery thread.. Yea!

Where did you find the Chief Engineer PrC?
What other places can we find acceptable Star Wars goodies?
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Rogues Gallery thread.. Yea!

Where did you find the Chief Engineer PrC?
What other places can we find acceptable Star Wars goodies?
Heh, off the top of my head its in the Hero's Guide. But, like the Sharpshooter, its not Saga and I'm not sure I'm up for converting it. Just continually commenting on my love for the Revised rules.
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Ahh... I see.

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I need to review the math on the money I spent, but other than that, I am think I am done done adjusting my character.
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Stats?

Possum: I think your stats rock!
I calculate them at about 44pts not including the level ups. =O

Perhaps you meant about 10's where those 14's are?
That would put you at about 28 not including level ups.

Str 14, Dex 16, Con 14, Int 14, Wis 16, Cha 14.

...unless I am missing or forgetting something?
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"Chuck Norris is the reason Ilmater suffers."
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"English is not nice, comfy, orderly language. As others have noted - in dark alleys, it mugs other languages and rifles through their pockets for loose grammar. Do you think that after committing such molestation that English is going to be particularly prissy about where it sticks which plural?"
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Shalimar: I really like the picture you chose for you character, where did you find it?
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