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Old 18th February 2009, 06:05 AM   #181 (permalink)
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Leif...lets try with 13 levels...
If that's what you want. I think Rhun's going to revolt if I have 13 levels, though.
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Old 18th February 2009, 08:11 AM   #182 (permalink)
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Rhun, I started two level behind and I'm only one behind now. But I think you missed the fact that we get two levels bonus so level 13 is actualy 1 level behind

THE QUESTION IS: do we get two levels across games (that is, each and every character) or just in The Great North?

Or maybe two levels total apply as you see fit

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Old 18th February 2009, 11:05 AM   #183 (permalink)
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I read it as two levels for each game. But I haven't actually leveled Katherine up yet, so let's get JA to clarify . . .

Personally, I'd LOVE to see Katherine get a couple of levels under her belt!
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Old 18th February 2009, 02:46 PM   #184 (permalink)
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JA, it might be easier (and more fair) if you gave a specific number of bonus XP points.
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Old 18th February 2009, 02:59 PM   #185 (permalink)
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Rhun is right...i winged it with the levels....i think most with the 2 level added for my abscence will be about 14 or 15 level now....so that would make a new character 12 or 13...

So create one at 12 and we will modify as we go...
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Old 18th February 2009, 03:01 PM   #186 (permalink)
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RATH has made a very good point i am going with exp.....that way charcters can buy bonus feats etc and customer their chararcter etc of just add them to levels....I am thinking 30k for the great north and 12k for Souther Operatives..........but i am flexiable on it....i know it takes a ton of xp to go up a level so just let me know
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Old 18th February 2009, 04:28 PM   #187 (permalink)
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Katherine has 14500 exp right now. I don't know where everyone else is in that regard. 12000 puts her at 26500, giving her two levels (making her level 7) and about 1500 shy of 8th. That should give those who want to spend exp on goodies plenty to work with and still be level 7, and those who just want to level up (speaking for myself only at this point) will be happy as well.

In other words, sounds great to me!

Just in case . . . what does a bonus feat run (in exp. points) these days?

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Old 18th February 2009, 04:37 PM   #188 (permalink)
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RATH has made a very good point i am going with exp.....that way charcters can buy bonus feats etc and customer their chararcter etc of just add them to levels....I am thinking 30k for the great north and 12k for Souther Operatives..........but i am flexiable on it....i know it takes a ton of xp to go up a level so just let me know

A 30K bonus would be a 2 level increase for Vadric, bringining him about half-way between 14th and 15th.

A 12K bonus would be a 2 level increase for Roak in Southern Ops as well.

XP structure

Per my calculations, the level break points are:

10K = 5th level
15k = 6
21k = 7
28k = 8
36k = 9
45k = 10
55k = 11
66k = 12
78k = 13
91k = 14
105k = 15

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Old 18th February 2009, 05:56 PM   #189 (permalink)
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Katherine has 14500 exp right now. I don't know where everyone else is in that regard. 12000 puts her at 26500, giving her two levels (making her level 7) and about 1500 shy of 8th.
Aye, that's exactly where Aidan is as well.

Should we gear-up any or would you rather handle that in-game?
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Rhun is right...i winged it with the levels....i think most with the 2 level added for my abscence will be about 14 or 15 level now....so that would make a new character 12 or 13...

So create one at 12 and we will modify as we go...
So let me see if I have this right:
Nijel (Southern Operatives) gets 12 000 bonus xp. (He might even be able to get that charisma boosted some!)

Thomas my soon-to-be-proposed Great North character (please let me know if that name is already taken by a pc or prominent npc and I'll change it.) gets 30 000 xp above the minimum for 12th level, right?
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Thomas my soon-to-be-proposed Great North character (please let me know if that name is already taken by a pc or prominent npc and I'll change it.) gets 30 000 xp above the minimum for 12th level, right?
Sneaky Leif...that would put him at 14th level! Did you ever decide on a race and class for Thomas?
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Ok, Rhun, I can see that you won't be happy unless I'm a level or two behind you, and that's ok by me. JA, I guess you'd better put me a level or two behind Rhun to forestall this nascent player revolt.

And no, Rhun, I haven't even thought about class yet. I just found out what level he would be a few minutes ago, and I've been tending to other games since then. Any recommendations? (Aside from the obvious, for JA's games, to avoid arcanists like the frikkin plague!) I would be thinking cleric, I guess, but I've already got 2 clerics and a paladin going now, so I'm not sure I want to work myself any further into that particular rut. But fighters can be sooo BORING! I'll just have to give it more thought. Feel free to recommend away!

OBVIOUSLY, again, since it's JA's game, Thomas will be HUMAN!
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Ok, Rhun, I can see that you won't be happy unless I'm a level or two behind you, and that's ok by me. JA, I guess you'd better put me a level or two behind Rhun to forestall this nascent player revolt.
I don't care what level your PC is. JA has just always carried on the tradition of new PCs starting a couple levels behind the rest of us. I've always saw that as a reward for all the trials and tribulations that our PCs have gone through.

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I would be thinking cleric, I guess, but I've already got 2 clerics and a paladin going now, so I'm not sure I want to work myself any further into that particular rut. But fighters can be sooo BORING! I'll just have to give it more thought. Feel free to recommend away!
As I play the only FULL cleric in the game, I can vouch for the roleplaying challenges that you would face as a cleric in this game. It isn't easy at all. With that said, since Vadric is a martial oriented cleric, it would be kinda nice to have a healing oriented cleric. That would free up more of Vadric's resources to do more of his demon/undead/forces of darkness smashing that he so very much loves.
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Old 18th February 2009, 07:07 PM   #194 (permalink)
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I don't care what level your PC is. JA has just always carried on the tradition of new PCs starting a couple levels behind the rest of us. I've always saw that as a reward for all the trials and tribulations that our PCs have gone through.

As I play the only FULL cleric in the game, I can vouch for the roleplaying challenges that you would face as a cleric in this game. It isn't easy at all. With that said, since Vadric is a martial oriented cleric, it would be kinda nice to have a healing oriented cleric. That would free up more of Vadric's resources to do more of his demon/undead/forces of darkness smashing that he so very much loves.
I certainly don't mind starting a bit behind the others, JA, if you have already set that precedent for this game, far be it from me to rock the boat. (I mean, it's NOT like we've been friends for nearly 30 YEARS, or anything! -- Seriously, just kidding, big guy.)

But, yeah, Rhun, I can see ol' Tomatino being a healing-type cleric with a few levels of rogue thrown into the mix, too. Maybe he was sent by Vadric's church to help out with the healing duties? since that's evidently always been a situation that Vadric has maybe disliked a bit? Sort of a flunky to Vadric -- a quasi-henchman, if you will?

Tomatino will be the "Sam" to Vadric's "Frodo". Sound ok, Rhun? No, that's no good, either. It smacks too much of Nijel kissing Roak's boots, hehehe. Let's have them be almost the same rank in the church but in different departments. Vadric is a defender and holy scourge type, and Tomatino is more of a benevolence and charity, "feed my sheep," kind of dude. How about it?

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But, yeah, I can see ol' Tomatino being a healing-type cleric with a few levels of rogue thrown into the mix, too. Maybe he was sent by your character's church to help out with the healing duties, since that's evidently always been a situation that you've maybe disliked a bit? Sort of a flunky to your cleric -- a quasi-henchman, if you will?
Just my unrequested two cents....

No, No, No. That just won't do....

Tom needs to be a rising star of the Society for the Preservation of the Faith. The Church of the Light needs a stronger presence in the uncharted territories in view if the reports coming into the Valley of the Light in recent times.

ROFLMAO!!
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Old 18th February 2009, 07:52 PM   #196 (permalink)
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But, yeah, Rhun, I can see ol' Tomatino being a healing-type cleric with a few levels of rogue thrown into the mix, too. Maybe he was sent by Vadric's church to help out with the healing duties? since that's evidently always been a situation that Vadric has maybe disliked a bit? Sort of a flunky to Vadric -- a quasi-henchman, if you will?
Well, there is only ONE church (at least as far as Vadric is concerned). The Church of the Light. Now, there are several different patrons saints that he could follow, though. Vadric revers Saint Heironeous...

Saint Olidammara - The patron Saint of Music and Tricks (Bards and Rogues)
Saint Pelor – The patron Saint of Healing and Strength
Saint Hestia (female) – The Patron Saint of Home and Hearth
Saint Hephaestus – Patron Saint of Smiths –
Saint Athena (female)- Patron Saint of Law and Truth
Saint Heironeous – Patron Saint of War
Saint Tyche – Patron Saint of Luck and Travelers

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Tomatino will be the "Sam" to Vadric's "Frodo". Sound ok, Rhun? No, that's no good, either. It smacks too much of Nijel kissing Roak's boots, hehehe. Let's have then be the same rank in the church but in different departments. Vadric is a defender and holy scourge type, and Tomatino is more of a benevolence and charity "feed my sheep" kind of dude. How about it?
Sounds good, but we won't really be the same "rank" in the church either, LOL. Vadric is the Military Attache to the Patriarch of Eastland, and a Knight of the Light. As such, he falls somewhere outside the traditional hierarchy of both the Church and the Knights.

On that nore, have you had a chance to read through JA's crazy 35 page campaign document yet? LOL.
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Just my unrequested two cents....

No, No, No. That just won't do....

Tom needs to be a rising star of the Society for the Preservation of the Faith. The Church of the Light needs a stronger presence in the uncharted territories in view if the reports coming into the Valley of the Light in recent times.

ROFLMAO!!
That works for me too, Lou, provided that you clue me in to the joke in what you say? Are you volunteering me for hazardous duty, or arranging for me to be an enemy of Vadric, or something else nefarious?
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That works for me too, Lou, provided that you clue me in to the joke in what you say? Are you volunteering me for hazardous duty, or arranging for me to be an enemy of Vadric, or something else nefarious?

Ha ha! No, that wouldn't make you an enemy of Vadric's. As long as you don't A) consort with the dark forces, B) say how much you LOVE dwarves and elves, and C) keep quiet when it comes to your opinions on the Church of the Light, you should get along with Vadric just fine.

For the record: The Church of Light DOES need a stronger presence in the Uncharted Territories.
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Leif you will need to make Thomas level 12.5...you can use the .5 to buy extra feats if you wish to customize him a little more...

As for Southern Operatives sounds like were right on the money as well as in the Great North xp wise...so go aheand and level them up...i have already started working on the back story to account for the time warping that will occur..
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It is now up to 68 pages thank you very much .........and it serves a purpose...players cant whine that they did not know..when it is spelled out more or less in black and white..and i wont even mention what is just vaguly mentioned.....
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