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Old 16th September 2008, 11:15 AM   #61 (permalink)
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No worries hellrazor, is it because of the specific combo, the use of a savage species progression, or did you not want celestials? I was originally going to try a succubus wilder, but I remembered the no devils/demons caveat.
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No worries hellrazor, is it because of the specific combo, the use of a savage species progression, or did you not want celestials? I was originally going to try a succubus wilder, but I remembered the no devils/demons caveat.
I though I had edited the post on that, sorry about that Halford
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so hellrazor111 do you allow la on one side and racial hitdice on the other? so I can play an urskan?
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Hellrazor, would you allow either a Bladeling (MM2) Mulhorandi Divine Minion or a Kaorti (FF) with the Fiend of Possession (also FF) PrC? Neither is a demon or devil, but I realize the concept is skirting kind of close. If it helps, the Kaorti version would actually have a CG or CN alignment.
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I have no problem with the Bladeling Divine Minion.
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No worries Hellrazor, I am sure I can come up with something its the array of choices thats the problem not the lack!
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OK so the full build I'd like to do is a Bladeling Divine Minion of Sebek Telepath (Psion) 5 // Master of Many Forms 1 / Survivor 1 / Fiend of Possession 1. I'm not really familiar with BoF beyond the Wikipedia plot synopsis. But I'm thinking that Sebek might have sent my character to investigate the dragon disappearances in the hope that his minion's direct involvement in the matter will help the Lord of Crocodiles expand his portfolio to cover dragons. Such a coup could then be parleyed into ascension from demigodhood to lesser or even greater godhood.

My character's own motivation simply be to further Sebek's goals, not out of altuism, but the certainty that service to The Smiling Death is his (her?) best chance of gaining glory and power. He or she would do their best to appear genuinely concerned about the fate of the dragons themselves, but the minion's true nature would be noticible in subtle ways.
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Okay, totally differnt idea...

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New PC

Is it too late to jump in?

Human (or silverbrow human) monk/fighter with major dragon blood line

I already play gestalt character and that is no problem, this would be my first heavy power gaming experience, so something NEW . I see references to existing world. Is there a thread with world info?

Maybe instead of fighter Swordsage

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I've been thinking about it and I decided against joining. I dont want to commit to a game at the moment. sorry.
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Name: War
Race: Warforged.
Class: Artificer 5 //Paladin 5
Variants: Racial Levels of Warforged Artificer and Paladin, No Spells Paladin

HP:70
AC:20

Fort:+8(4+4)
Ref:+3(1+3)
Will:+9(4+4+1)

STR:15
DEX:14
CON:18 (16+2)
INT:17
CHA:16 (18-2)
WIS:12 (14-2)

Crew: Paladin Mount(Warhorse Effigy):Travel,

Homunculus(Packmate)(Improved to 6 HD)(Feats: Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot)(special: Flyer and store infusion),

Benihime(Weapon Familiar)(+1 alchemy blade [armblade])(1-handed and Piercing benefits)(Cha:14, Wis:14, Int:10)(Powers: Alertness, Deliver Touch infusions, Share Infusions, Improved Evasion, )

Feats: Adamantine Body, Improved Homunculus, Scribe Scroll, Brew Potion, Craft Wondrous Item, Craft Magic Arms and Armor, Legendary Artisan,

Special: Imbue self, Tools of War, Artificer Knowledge, Artisan Bonus, Disable trap, item creation, Craft Weapon Familiar( Benihime) CR:100, Aura of Good, Detect Evil, Smite Construct, Durable Will, Repair Damage, Aura of Courage, Immunity to Stunning, Smite Evil 2/day, Turn Undead 6/day, Special Mount, W.F. racial traits,

Gear: 100 doses of alchemical items from Complete Scoundrel, Complete Adventurer, ECS, Player's Handbook, Magic of Eberron, Mwk Alchemy lab, Healer's Kit, W.F. repair kit, Holy symbol, Dagger, triple- weapon capsule retainer, Mwk. Artisan's tool kit, Adventure Gear, thieves' tools, all in packmate which has triple carrying capacity.

Skills: Craft(Alchemy) +8, D.D. +8, Craft(Metalsmithing) +8, Heal +8, U.M.D. +8, Open Lock +8, Knowledge (Technology)+8,
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so hellrazor111 do you allow la on one side and racial hitdice on the other? so I can play an urskan?
After a long thought, I'm gonna say no to that, sorry.

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I've been thinking about it and I decided against joining. I dont want to commit to a game at the moment. sorry.
Its cool, I understand.

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Human (or silverbrow human) monk/fighter with major dragon blood line

I already play gestalt character and that is no problem, this would be my first heavy power gaming experience, so something NEW . I see references to existing world. Is there a thread with world info?
The classes are ok, where can i find the silverbrow human though? And how major of a dragon bloodline? theres no thread but check my first post, Wiki has some stuff on it, you might find some stuff on dragon-tear.net, its a BoF fansite.

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Okay, totally differnt idea...

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You never answered my question. Would you accept a Petal from MM3
Sorry about that, I didn't have access to any of my books or pdfs. Ya, you can play it if you want to.
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Here's the Petal from MM3.
Petal
Petal
Tiny Fey
Hit Dice: 1d6+2 (5 hp)
Speed: 15 ft. (3 squares), fly 60 ft. (good)
Special Qualities: Damage reduction 5/cold iron, low-light vision
Abilities: -8 Str, +10 Dex, +4 Con, +4 Int, +8 Cha
Feats: Weapon Finesse[b]
Level Adjustment: +2 (cohort)
I was thinking a Petal LA +2 / Swashbuckler 3 // Rogue 3 / Swordsage 2. Would you allow the Craven feat from Heroes of Horror? It requires that you not be immune to fear and have sneak attack, in return you get a -2 to fear saves and +1 to sneak attack damage per character level.
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Old 19th September 2008, 01:09 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Ok so how about my first sugestion. half ogre, mineral warrior, cleric 3 /barbarian of bear totem 5 ?
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Here is dragon monk

Marius Goldleaf
Gestalt F4/M5 major gold dragon bloodline
18, 17, 16, 15, 14, 14
Stat Score Mod
STR 16 (+3) (+1 from bloodline)
DEX 18 (+4) (+1@4th)
CON 16 (+3)
INT 14 (+2)
WIS 18 (+4)
CHA 14 (+2)

BAB 5
Saves 4 + Attribute
Fort: 4 +3 +1= 8
Ref: 4 +4 +1= 9
Will: 4 +4 +1= 9

to hit: 5 +4 = 9
Damage: 2d6+4

Base AC: 10 + 4(DEX) +4 (WIS) +1 (monk) +1 (feat)
AC: 20/flat 16/touch 16

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Skill           Skills                                
           Total    Rnk    Stat    Msc    Stat    
Appraise                2    0    2    0    INT    
Autohypnosis    4    0    4    0    WIS    
Balance         9    3    4    2    DEX    
Climb          2    0    2    0    STR    
Concentration    3    0    3    0    CON    
Craft                2    0    2    0    INT    
Escape Artist    4    0    4    0    DEX    
Forgery       2    0    2    0    INT    
Heal            5    1    4    0    WIS    
Hide            4    0    4    0    DEX    
Jump           14    6    2    6    STR    
Knowledge(arcana)    10    8    2    0    INT
Knowledge(religion) 7    5    2    0    INT
Knowledge(nature)     4    3    1    0    INT
Listen         11    5    4    2    WIS
Move Silently    7    3    4    0    DEX    
Open Lock    4    0    4    0    DEX    
Ride             5    1    4    0    DEX
Search        5    3    2    0    INT
Sense Motive    10    4    4    2    WIS
Sleight of Hand    4    0    4    0    DEX
Spot           11    5    4    2    WIS    
Survival       4    0    4    0    WIS
Swim          2    0    2    0    STR    
Tumble        12    8    4    0    DEX    
Use Rope                4    0    4    0    DEX
Collector of stories              2                
 
Total        56                
Total available    56
Feats

Flaw: Shaky (-2 to ranged attacks)
Bonus: Luck of Heroes (+1 all saves) 1st level only

Human: Improved Nat Attack
1st: Improved Initiative
F1 Intuitive Attack

M2 Combat reflexes, Evasion
BL1 +2 Sense Motive, Alertness

3rd Knowledge Devotion, STR +1
M3 Still Mind , Evasion
F2 Combat Expertise

4th Fire resistance 5
M4 Ki Strike (magic), slow fall
F3
5th Gold dragon affinity +2
M5 Purity of Body
F4 Superior Unarmed Strike


Magic Items

Meteoric Dagger 500 (assuming +1 weapon for free (2302), this one costs 2802)
Normal +1 dagger; 1 charge returning; 2 charges flaming and reurning; 3 charges flaming, returning and blast 3d6 fire; REF DC 14 halves

Anklet of dislocation 1400
Swift 2/day 10' teleport without error

Boots of stomping 600
std, 3/day, 15' cone, REF DC 13 or prone and take 1d4 nonlethat dmg

Healing belt 750
std; +2 competence Heal; 3 charges/day; healing 1 charge 2d8 + 1d8/extra charge (max 4d8)

Spellsink scarab 2000
Immediate; 3 charges/day; reduces spell damage 1 charge 2d6 +1d6/extra charge

Brute gauntlets 500
Swift 3 charges/day, morale bonus to STR, STR skills and damage; 1 charge +2; 2 charges +3; 3 charges +4

Lenses of bright vision 600
swift; 3/day; 1 min duration; 15' cone of light

Vanisher cloak 2500
std; 3 charges/day; 1 charge invisibility 4rnds; 2 charges user and 1 ally invisible for 3 rnds; 3 charges user and 3 allies invisible for 1 rnd
Vest of resistance 1000
+1 to all saves
Potion of enlarge x2 100
Potion of cure light wounds x2 100

Wanted:
Cobra straps 1400
Panther mask 2300
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Total: 8850


History

Marius was taken as slave from small borderland village. His family got him late in life and they were killed. Unknown to him, they took an orphan as they couldn't have children. They would eventualy thell him, but right now, he believes his roots are in borderlands. After grueling travel and smuggling he ended up as cannon fodder for arena combat.

Instead of dying however, he showed instinctive feel for combat and avoiding clumsy attacks of his more powerful opponents, he became known as lethal combatant with his cestus (battle glove). After several years of such life he was first defeated and then bought by an old man possibly <enter name of oriental empire> in origin who brought him to border keep at some baronet's manor where he was trained in more advanced techniques and learned in the ways of the dragon. There was a chapel devoted to learning (Deneir?). It is rumored that deep under the temple sleeps enormous gold wyrm that gave monks their knowledge. Also, legend has it that the empire will fall if baronet's keep is ever overrun (which it never was).

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Old 20th September 2008, 12:36 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Aside from history, description, and perhaps a few minor tweaks, my character is done.

Haereka, Minion of Sebek
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Female NE Bladeling Divine Minion of Sebek Psion (Telepath) 5 // Master of Many Forms 1/ Survivor 1 / Fiend of Possession 1 (+2 LA)

Strength 14  +2
Dexterity 16 +3 (+2 Race)
Constitution 15 +2
Intelligence 18  +4 
Wisdom 14 +2
Charisma 18  +4 (+1 Levels)

Initiative +3
AC 17 (+3 Dex +4 Natural)
HP 

Fort +8 (6 base +2 Con)
Ref +9 (6 base +3 Dex)
Will +9 (7 base +2 Wis) 

Attack (melee) +2 (2 BAB +2 Str -2 Flaw)
Attack (ranged) +3 (2 BAB +3 Dex)

Feats:
Overchannel
Talented (Bonus)
Psionic Meditation
Extend Power

Flaw: Noncombatant
Flaw: Wild


Skills: 
Bluff +11 (5 ranks +4 Cha +2 Circumstance)
Concentration +15 (8 ranks +2 Con +5 Competence)
Diplomacy +16 (8 ranks +4 Cha +4 Synergy) 
Disguise +13 (5 ranks +4 Cha +2 Synergy +2 Circumstance)
Hide 18 (8 ranks +3 Dex +5 Competence +2 Circumstance) or 19 (8 ranks +4 Int +5 Competence +2 Circumstance)
Know: Arcana +10 (6 ranks +4 Int)
Sense Motive 7 (5 ranks +2 Wis)
Spot 9 (5 ranks +2 Wis +2 Circumstance)
Abilities
Bladeling
Razor Storm (Ex): Once per day, a bladeling can expel shrapnel-like bits of its skin in a 15' cone, dealing 2d6 points of piercing damageto any creature in the area. A Reflex save (DC 10) halves the damage. After this attack, the bladeling's natural armor bonus drops to +2 for 24 hours.
Immunities (Ex): A bladeling takes no damage form acid, and is immune to rust despite its metallic hide.
Resistances (Ex): Cold resistance 5, fire resistance 5, DR 5/magic bludgeoning.
Outsider Traits: A bladeling has darkvision (60' range). It cannot be raised or resurrected.

Psion (Telepath)
Telepathic Communication (Su): You gain the supernatural ability telepathy from page 316 of the Monster Manual. You can communicate telepathically with any other creature that has a language within 5 feet per manifester level. You can address multiple creatures at once telepathically, although maintaining telepathic conversation with more than one creature at a time is just as difficult as simultaneously speaking and listening to multiple people at the same time. This replaces the Psion bonus feat at 5th level.

Divine Minion
Fast Wild Shape (Su): A divine minion can wild shape as an 11th-level druid into one or more animal forms that depend on the deity it serves (crocodile). The divine minion can use this ability at will, can change form as a free action, and can spend time in animal form indefinitely. They prefer to keep their shapechanging abilities secret so that they can use them to surprise their enemies in combat. Unlike a druid, minions can use this ability even if they're wearing metal armor.
Fear Immunity (Su): Divine minions are immune to fear effects.

Master of Many Forms
Shifter's Speech (Ex): Haereka maintains her ability to speak normally regardless of the form she takes. Furthermore, she can communicate with other creatures of the same kind while in wild shape , as long as such creatures are normally capable of communicating with each other using natural methods.
Improved Wild Shape (Su): Haereka can assume humanoid forms when she uses wild shape.

Survivor
Uncanny Dodge (Ex): Haerka retains her Dexterity bonus to AC even if she is caught flat-footed or struck by an invisible attacker. However, she still loses his Dexterity bonus to AC if immobilized.

Fiend of Possession
Ethereal Form(Su): Become Ethereal at will as if casting Etherealness
(6th caster level). Possessing an object or creature effectively ends a use
of this ability, so time spent in another body or object doesn't count
against the duration of this ability.
Hide Presence(Ex): When possessing an object or creature a FoP can
hide it's presence by making a special hide check, DC equals DC of spell[+4
bonus if FoP isn't controlling the object or creature. A successful check
allows the FoP to avoid virtually anything that would betray it's presence
in the possessed creature or object. Thus it can pass through a magic circle
against evil, enter a temple warded by a forbiddance, or escape detect via
detect evil. When possessing a creature a FoP can make this hide check to
protect the possessed creature from the full effects of alignment based
spells such as holy smite. If the fiend makes a successful hide check, then
the possessed creatures takes damage appropriate to it's actual alignment,
but if the check fails the creature is affected as if it were the fiend.
* Possess Object(Su): Possess item from Tiny to Huge size,
unattended nonmagical items are automatically possessed, magic items and
attended items receive a save [DC15]. A FoP becomes part of the object it
possesses, so it is no longer ethereal. The FoP is aware of what is going on
around the object, it can see and hear up to 60 feet away. In any round in
which it takes no other action [such as using a spell-like ability], it
extends it's senses to twice it's normal range [120]. The fiend is
vulnerable to spells that specifically affect outsiders or creatures or the
fiends alignment such as holy word, holy smite etc, and is affected by
mind-affecting spells but not physical attacks. Harming the object does not
harm the fiend, although if the object is destroyed, the FoP is forced back
into it's ethereal form. When possessing an object a FoP can use any ability
it has that requires no physical action, such as using a spell-like ability
or telepathy. It can't cast spells, attack physically, or perform any other
physical action, until it reaches a high enough level to make the possessed
object perform these tasks.

Powers

PP: 35
1st Vigor, Psionic Charm, Mindlink, Psionic Grease
2nd Read Thoughts, Psionic Suggestion, Skill Knowledge, Crystal Storm
3rd Energy Wall, Time Hop

Equipment

Tunic of Steady Spellcasting (CAdv) 2,500
Cloak of Elvenkind 2,500
Light Crossbow +1
Masterwork Quarterstaff 300
Masterwork Courtier's outfit 130 (+2 Bluff)
Masterwork Lenses 50 (+2 Spot)
Masterwork Hide Kit 50
10 Disguise Kits 500
5 days rations
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Petals... lol... they're sooo broken for +2LA, heh. The stat mods are nuts.

Hmmm... Kerlan is going the general route I was...

Pondering playing one of my older characters... trying it out in gestalt...
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Okay my current plan is a venerable Grey Elf Psion/Ghost. Since ghost is a level adjustment of 5 with no racial hit die it should be doable.

I wanted to check this was okay before posting as I'd hate to sick him on a DM who is not prepared to deal with him!
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What is our actual starting XP?
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Here's the Petal from MM3.
Petal
Petal
Tiny Fey
Hit Dice: 1d6+2 (5 hp)
Speed: 15 ft. (3 squares), fly 60 ft. (good)
Special Qualities: Damage reduction 5/cold iron, low-light vision
Abilities: -8 Str, +10 Dex, +4 Con, +4 Int, +8 Cha
Feats: Weapon Finesse[b]
Level Adjustment: +2 (cohort)
pft...and people say thri kreen is broken.

On another note, are people going to start submitting actual characters to create a party, or is this just an exercise in statistical mathturbation? Can we stop posting endless concepts and start getting toons together that can function as a survivable party? I don't think this is going to be an arena type campaign so 4 swordsages aren't really needed.
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