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Old 19th November 2008, 10:48 PM   #61 (permalink)
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more crunch added to my cleric last night, in case you didn't see it. An actual, for real name could be coming soon, maybe?
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Old 20th November 2008, 02:35 AM   #62 (permalink)
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No concept votes? Anybody? I like all three, and I'm still having decision issues- but I don't want to fully detail all three...
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Old 20th November 2008, 03:58 AM   #63 (permalink)
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I like Owl best.
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Old 20th November 2008, 04:33 AM   #64 (permalink)
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I think I have to agree - Owl is my favorite. But Ox is a close second. And Otter works as well. The key issue is: Which one do YOU like best?
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Old 20th November 2008, 04:58 AM   #65 (permalink)
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Pathfinder, I like Ox particularly.

Also, I as thinking it might be time to share some of the public aspects of our characters.
Mine is called Culhwych, and mechanically is an elf archer ranger, very deft, very wise.

But, aside from the crunch:

He is now in his 32nd year, a tall man of healthy constitution, his hair slightly unkept, tied in a tail, his beard unshoven and starting to turn grey. He often hides his expressions with the hood of his short mantle, particularly when he fights, and kills, but sometimes, his comrades can see the light in his eyes... a frightening, desperate flame.
Culhwych was a Warden at the Outpost, frequently deployed at the walls or in supporting teams for recoinnance because of his exceptiona prowess with the bow.
He never talks about himself, but he has a friendlier relationship with Jarod than with the rest of the people. He treats him with the utmost respect, like a soldier with an officer. He shows him almost complete trust in most situations and gnerally relies on his wisdom and experience.
Culhwych was emplyed by Maclynn to serve as an archer on the Cat. His abilities were pretty well known at the Outpost, and the Raftman heeded Jarod's recomandation. He doesn't show his feelings about him anyway, and keeps his word as a recruitee, doing his job scupolously.
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Old 20th November 2008, 05:30 AM   #66 (permalink)
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I liked Ox too. But I like Owl better.
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Old 20th November 2008, 06:11 AM   #67 (permalink)
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So I think that I will just ask to make sure if I got this right.

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pathfinderq1-one of three, not sure which yet, but considering both a wizard and a fighter, both of which got positive responses from others.
Sparky-Undecided on class, character concept fleshed out, but I am guessing leaning toward warlock from the concept fluff, or am I missing a multiclass or reskinning somewhere?

Striker, leader, defender, and two still to be determined. This is great. Any classes to fill in the holes are great. Wizard makes us more well rounded, defender or leader makes us more durable, and striker gives us firepower. Fighter could give us firepower and durability. Warlock would give us firepower and control. Plus we could think multiclass. Many ways we could go, and all would be great.

For foes, the main foe immediately will be sahuagin. Undead will likely play a big role. These two have a high chance of being the bad guys at least through Heroic Tier. Others seem to be strange mutant non-intelligent monsters. Plus a fair number of reskinned humanoids as humans.
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Old 20th November 2008, 06:56 AM   #68 (permalink)
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Actually, I'd like some suggestions on what class to take. I'll post a brief description of Orthanach and you lot can help me get his class squared away. I am leaning toward Warlock or Warlock MC and a 'tiefling' reskin or human (I like the freebies). The reason I haven't just said 'Warlock' because they don't have good weapon skills. If I pick straight human I can supplement weapon skills with feats (somewhat), but if I just do the Warlock MC, I'll go with 'tiefling.'

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Orthanach O'Cionaith
/UR han ach/ /O KEN ee/

He is a young, sturdy man who isn't exactly sure how old he is. Probably under a score of years, but maybe over. He was born some time in midwinter. He has short dark hair that lays in loose curls against his head. He has intense, clear brown eyes. His hands are heavily calloused from cutting peat and working kilns.

Orthanach is an indentured servant. Originally from a family of freeborn peat cutters and kiln workers, the family was stripped of their freedom and Orthanach's service to the family's liegelord was commuted to an indenture that the lord then sold off. Orthanach would only speak of any of this under persistent inquiry over long periods of time... he does not trust or share easily.

The first any of you met this quiet, pious young man was as a soldier at the Outpost. His indenture had been sold to the lord whose lands included the Outpost.

There he tried to keep his head down and not draw attention to himself. He didn't make any real friends. He was a dependable and hard-worker who spent much of his leisure time in prayer. Occasionally chinks in his grim demeanor would appear, sometimes as violent outbursts of temper or sometimes as displays of deep compassion and empathy. As an indentured servant, his rights are few, so he tries to stay out of trouble, but these displays of anger and compassion usually end with him getting into trouble that could be very serious. He was lucky to have come under Jarod Hornheim's command. The Captain was sympathetic to the boy.

Recently Jarod brokered the sale of Orthanach's indenture to the Raftman.

Perceptive individuals would note that the boy's actual defining characteristic is a deep sadness.

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Old 20th November 2008, 07:04 AM   #69 (permalink)
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Now this may seem strange Sparky, but the first class that came to my mind when I read you concept is... Paladin.
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Old 20th November 2008, 07:58 AM   #70 (permalink)
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I don't think that's strange at all. There really isn't a class apart from Wizard that I couldn't bend to the concept (and that I could do with re-skinning). The crunchy side would make Paladin a good fit with a Warlock MC, not that that's a big concern since it's just one power.
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Old 20th November 2008, 11:22 AM   #71 (permalink)
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On a side note, PA mentioned we'll probably fight a lot of undead. Paladins are great for those.
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Old 20th November 2008, 07:50 PM   #72 (permalink)
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I am not completely sure about the major role of undead, but the module author expresed a love for undead, and that was one of the reasons that a bog appealed to him. So I would expect a lot. Interesting not knowing what is coming, even as a DM. The published parts of the path only go to 2nd level so far.

Paladin sounds great. Also, the warlock MC sounds good. If you want to take another route with this, you could check out the "hexhealer" warlock/cleric MC on the wizards board. It seems like it is supposed to be a secondary meleer/secondary healer/guy with strange powers kinda character. Looked cool. Could play up the internal conflict going on in this character. You can find it here.
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Old 20th November 2008, 09:18 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Hmmm, if we're going to be fighting undead that much, maybe I need to re-think my feat choices and try to work in Extra Turning and/or Improved Turning. (Although, he does have a decent Cha score, so that helps.) But, come to think of it, I think the granted power for priests of Pelor probably has something to do with battling undead. Have to check that tonight. Of course, there's always the consideration that simply Turning undead will just delay the inevitable fight, which we might prefer to get out of the way sooner rather than later. Having a Paladin would help a lot, but not for a few levels. (4th, I think?)

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I'm not entirely sure that I see the connection between a bog and the undead. In fact, I'm quite sure that it totally baffles me.

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Old 20th November 2008, 10:38 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Remember, we're 4E now, turning is a radiant damage plus knockback AoE effect. Paladins don't get it, but they can take the Pelor's Radiance Channel Divinity feat, which lets them use Channel Divinity to damage and stun all adjacent undead.
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Old 20th November 2008, 10:44 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Hmmm, 'zat right? And here I thought I was all set to play a 4e Cleric! Guess I'd better hit the Book some more. Thanks, Nac!
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One of the creepier traits of a peat bog is that dead animal matter tends to decay slowly in them, leading to well-preserved dead things all over the place.

Look at the 'Archaeology' section at Wikipedia. (I ran across this doing research for Orthanach.
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Old 20th November 2008, 11:06 PM   #77 (permalink)
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Yep! I'm officially Creeped-Out! Seriously, that is wicked cool! Can you quantify that at all? How much slower? (Hmm, guess I could look myself if I wasn't so lazy....)
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This article, contrary to what you say, suggests that the moisture level and the insect activity in a bog would contribute to increasing the rate of decomp. Decomposition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia And yet, instinctively, I know that you are correct. Hmmm, a quandary.

Ok, got it! "Bodies submerged in peat bog may become naturally "embalmed", arresting decomposition and resulting in a preserved specimen known as a bog body. The time for an embalmed body to be reduced to a skeleton varies greatly. Even when a body is decomposed, embalming treatment can still be achieved (the arterial system decays slower) but would not restore a natural appearance without extensive reconstruction and cosmetic work, and is largely used to control the foul odours due to decomposition." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decomposition

So, PA, got a template for the Bog Body?

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So it looks like the concept list is down to 2 now, "Ox" and "Owl". Some of this may depend on what Orthanoch ends up as; if he goes for Warlock (and thus another ranged Striker), I'd lean towards Ox as a heavy melee type. Otherwise, I'll go with Owl, and I'll save Otter as a back-up idea. Either way, it should be an interesting party mix.

So far, Ox (or rather, Brennan McMillan) is going to be fighting with a reach weapon (probably a glaive), so he ought to be fairly good at covering several non-melee types. One facet of his personality which ought to amusing is his mild fear of walking dead- since he is "inspired" by Jayne Cobb from Firefly, the fear of Reavers became a fear of corporeal (or "walking") undead. On the other side, Owl (or rather Aiffe Northwind) can fight with a longsword (and may be aiming for the Mage of the Spiral tower paragon path- or may go the paragon MC warlock route), but is far more likely to attack with spells- and she apparently has a prefernce for fire magic. I'll get back to work- most of the background and mechanics stuff is done, but in longhand, so i still need to type it up.
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I'm gonna go with Paladin, likely a Warlock MC.
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