Thanks WD, that is correct. Here's the entry on Brutal from Adventurer's Vault:
Brutal: A brutal weapon’s minimum damage is higher than that of a normal weapon. When rolling the weapon’s damage, reroll any die that displays a value equal to or lower than the brutal value given for the weapon. Reroll the die until the value shown exceeds the weapon’s brutal value, and then use the new value.
For example, the execution axe has a property of brutal 2. If a fighter wielding this weapon hits with steel serpent strike (a 2[W] power), the player rolls 2d12 for the weapon damage, rerolling a die result of 1 or 2 until the die shows 3 or higher.
I'm not Scotley, but I think Basher uses a weapon with the 'brutal 2' quality.
Are you sure??? You look an awful lot like Scotley to me!
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Thanks WD, that is correct. Here's the entry on Brutal from Adventurer's Vault:
Brutal: A brutal weapon’s minimum damage is higher than that of a normal weapon. When rolling the weapon’s damage, reroll any die that displays a value equal to or lower than the brutal value given for the weapon. Reroll the die until the value shown exceeds the weapon’s brutal value, and then use the new value.
For example, the execution axe has a property of brutal 2. If a fighter wielding this weapon hits with steel serpent strike (a 2[W] power), the player rolls 2d12 for the weapon damage, rerolling a die result of 1 or 2 until the die shows 3 or higher.
Ok, thanks. Got it, now. But, in the example, how do you get a 1 on 2d12??
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Yeah I love me that brutal quality. I love the Executioner Axe for a barbarian....mmmm high crit + high dmg + brutal = watch out...
Good think it's Basher7 with the brutal axe and not Tarrk, I guess! Or does Tarrk have one, too?
Nope they're way too brutal to get that extra to hit. Trade the higher damage for the lower hit chance. For most people I'd stick with the +3 bonus as you're static damage is usually much higher than the dice damage (especially strikers). Exception is the Avenger class, rolling the 2d20 to attack your oath target means you can get away with the lower prof bonus.
Nope they're way too brutal to get that extra to hit. Trade the higher damage for the lower hit chance. For most people I'd stick with the +3 bonus as you're static damage is usually much higher than the dice damage (especially strikers). Exception is the Avenger class, rolling the 2d20 to attack your oath target means you can get away with the lower prof bonus.
Nope they're way too brutal to get that extra to hit. Trade the higher damage for the lower hit chance. For most people I'd stick with the +3 bonus as you're static damage is usually much higher than the dice damage (especially strikers). Exception is the Avenger class, rolling the 2d20 to attack your oath target means you can get away with the lower prof bonus.
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Originally Posted by renau1g
Nope they're way too brutal to get that extra to hit. Trade the higher damage for the lower hit chance. For most people I'd stick with the +3 bonus as you're static damage is usually much higher than the dice damage (especially strikers). Exception is the Avenger class, rolling the 2d20 to attack your oath target means you can get away with the lower prof bonus.
Dang, Ryan, you said it twice and I STILL don't know what you're talking about!!
Whoops... stupid slow enworld. The benefit of swords is that they're more accurate (hence the +3 proficiency bonus to hit) vs axes/hammers (which tend to be either high crit or brutal, which cause more damage).
For most PC's once you begin moving to higher levels you're less concerned with what the dice damage is as the amount you add to the rolls is much higher. Also most of the time powers have a cool effect with them (like righteous Brand giving a +3 to hit bonus for another PC) that only work when you hit. So I tend to find hitting something a bit more often is better than doing a bit more damage when you hit.
This is of course my opinion and certain PC's are much cooler with the big weapons (see Basher and Tarrk for good examples).
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