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Old 16th February 2009, 09:48 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I'm not poor. I'm just lazy.

I will working on getting my very own PHB ordered this week so you'll leave me alone!
FINE THEN! The Devil Take you! I don't care if you NEVER get a ph!

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Old 16th February 2009, 09:50 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I didn't get any info from you, Ryan. I mean, I got a couple of emails, but nothing with crunch. Can you try resending?
Oooh, Rhun's so privileged. Can I call you Ryan, too, renau1g? BTW, my rn is, believe it or not, Leif.

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Old 16th February 2009, 10:00 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Just sent to your hotmail account, it should be there shortly.

Essentially, there are 2 kinds of rogues, Brawny (focus on STR), or Trickster (Focus on CHA). Rangers are either two-weapon fighter or bow-wielders.
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Old 16th February 2009, 10:06 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Really, renau1g, those are just the Builds that are specified in the ph. You aren't REQUIRED to abide by that stuff, you can make your own hybrid build, or basically do anyting you want with the ability scores that you have to work with. But, you're right, until we all get more used to 4e, the Builds are a good way to cover the things you wish to cover.
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Old 16th February 2009, 10:06 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Oooh, Rhun's so privileged. Can I call you Ryan, too, renau1g? BTW, my rn is, believe it or not, Leif.
He is privileged , although feel free as well.

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Old 16th February 2009, 10:12 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Really, renau1g, those are just the Builds that are specified in the ph. You aren't REQUIRED to abide by that stuff, you can make your own hybrid build, or basically do anyting you want with the ability scores that you have to work with. But, you're right, until we all get more used to 4e, the Builds are a good way to cover the things you wish to cover.
While you're not required to follow 1 or the other, a few of the powers are keyed off of it (i.e. if you're a brutal rogue get bonus damage = to STR modifier, or if you're a trickster rogue you can shift the target 1+CHA modifier vs just 1 square).
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Old 16th February 2009, 10:12 PM   #47 (permalink)
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He is privileged , although feel free as well.

P.S. I do believe that Leif is you're real name, gmail shows it in your e-mail.
Aww, gee, thanks! Yeah, I knew we had emailed before, didn't I? Now I know the names of everyone in this game. Guess you think I'm gonna have you to come over soon for a big fish fry, huh? We'll see... we'll see.....
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Old 16th February 2009, 10:16 PM   #48 (permalink)
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While you're not required to follow 1 or the other, a few of the powers are keyed off of it (i.e. if you're a brutal rogue get bonus damage = to STR modifier, or if you're a trickster rogue you can shift the target 1+CHA modifier vs just 1 square).
But don't trickster rogues or other rogues also get str bonus added to dam? It's just that if you take the brutal rogue build you're more likely to have a positive str bonus, right?
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Old 16th February 2009, 10:21 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Only to melee basic attacks. all of their at-wills add Dex bonus to damage. It's pretty easy to play a low-strength trickster rogue.
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Old 16th February 2009, 10:29 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Ok, cool! I knew about getting bonuses from other abilities, but I wasn't thiking straight.

Kinda like using the better of Dex or Int for your bonus to AC, which is also very cool. Str pairs with Wis, Dex with Int, and Con with Cha, is that right?

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Str with Con and Wis with Cha. It kin of sucks for a fighter in that respect.
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Old 16th February 2009, 11:50 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Str with Con and Wis with Cha. It kin of sucks for a fighter in that respect.
Y'know, I almost said that, but it just didn't seem "symmetrical" enough, so I thought that it must be wrong. Go figure....

Maybe once the 'new' wears off 4e we can get a 4eSRD?

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Old 17th February 2009, 06:08 AM   #53 (permalink)
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As soon as we get the whole party ready, I guess we can go ahead and get this show on the road!
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Old 17th February 2009, 03:34 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Maybe once the 'new' wears off 4e we can get a 4eSRD?
Not likely... WOTC hasn't been particularly generous with their OGL this time around. I hope they do though, it's a pain in the butt looking stuff up in the physical book all the time...
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So. Now, I guess we're waiting for Rhun to get a character made, Louis to finish his character (or maybe he has, I haven't checked in a couple of days). Anything else we're waiting for? Gee, I kinda hope so....I'm pretty much scared spitless to be running a 4e game.

At this rate, I'll need to start a fork of the OOC thread before we even start playing!
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Old 18th February 2009, 04:44 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Mowgli, I am unable to open Aimhirghin Maolán's sheet, even though I have the full version of the DDI character generator loaded on my smart box. This is an unacceptable state of affairs, to say the least.
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He is privileged , although feel free as well.

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Old 18th February 2009, 06:03 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Hey! Not so fast there, Steven!
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Old 18th February 2009, 06:38 AM   #59 (permalink)
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Mowgli, I am unable to open Aimhirghin Maolán's sheet, even though I have the full version of the DDI character generator loaded on my smart box. This is an unacceptable state of affairs, to say the least.
You can open with Wordpad. That's what I did. (Stupid Vista )
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Mowgli, I am unable to open Aimhirghin Maolán's sheet, even though I have the full version of the DDI character generator loaded on my smart box. This is an unacceptable state of affairs, to say the least.
Indeed it is, oh great and magnanimous GM! I spent a good part of the day last Saturday putting Manny in your preferred format in the Whirtlestaff's RG thread. My plan is to get Aimhirghin typed up this weekend. I haven't decided on a backstory for him yet, and still have to finish up his equipment list but I'll get what I do have up PDQ.

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Anything else we're waiting for? Gee, I kinda hope so....I'm pretty much scared spitless to be running a 4e game.
Relax, it's gonna be great! The story's the thing, and you've got that part down cold no matter what system you're using.
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