The new barbarian feature is adding 1 to reflex and AC if wearing no heavier than light armor. That's all.
The 1 being your character's Con bonus? At least I think that's what you said earlier? And that feature is called "Barbarian's Agility?" I'm not yet used to the way that 4e applies the bonus from strange abilities to certain of a character's stats. Let's see, NORMALLY, it's Int or Dex for AC and Reflex, Wis or Cha for Will, and Con or Str for Fortitude, isn't it? But this goes at least one step further and applies Con to AC and Relflex. Am I understanding you correctly?
The 1 being your character's Con bonus? At least I think that's what you said earlier?
No, I misunderstood an early information. Some primal classes (like the druid) can add other abilities (like con) instead Dex/Int to determine the AC bonus, but not the barbarian.
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And that feature is called "Barbarian's Agility?" I'm not yet used to the way that 4e applies the bonus from strange abilities to certain of a character's stats. Let's see, NORMALLY, it's Int or Dex for AC and Reflex, Wis or Cha for Will, and Con or Str for Fortitude, isn't it?
Yes, all correct.
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But this goes at least one step further and applies Con to AC and Relflex. Am I understanding you correctly?
No, it is just a flat +1 bonus to AC and Reflex if the barbarian wears no or light armor.
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No, I misunderstood earlier. Some primal classes (like the druid) can add other abilities (like con) instead Dex/Int to determine the AC bonus.
So now we have Arcane, Martial, and Primal classes? I presume that Barbarian and Druid are both Primal? Man, I can't WAIT until my ph2 arrives!
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No, it is just a flat +1 bonus to AC and Reflex if the barbarian wears no or light armor.
How can both of these quotes the correct? Do you mean that your Barbarian has one bonus to his AC because of his Con score and a different bonus because of his Barbarian Agility ability? If that's not what you mean, then I am even more confused now than I was before.
Don't worry...shhh...4e is simpler, more streamlined than 3.5e* *Note, this offer only applies using the core rules, which consequently are more complicated than 3.5e core books
It is? Oh, yeah, that's right, it is! Glad you reminded me.
Ok: Druid Feature: Can use con mod to determine AC (instead of (Dex/Int)) in light armor.
Barbarian: Uses Dex/Int for AC mod in light armor (as everybody else. But, adds +1 to AC and reflex if not wearing heavy armor.
Example: Tarrk
Str 18 Dex 13 Wis 14 Con 16 Int 10 Cha 08
AC 15 (base 10 + Level 0 + Hide armor 3 + Dex mod 1 + Barbarian bonus 1)
Fortitude 16 (base 10 + Level 0 + Str mod 4 + Barbarian save bonus 2) Reflex 12 (base 10 + Level 0 + Dex mod 1 + Barbarian bonus 1) Will 12 (base 10 + Level 0 + Wis mod 2)
Wow! Thanks, WD, that's PERFECT! Yes, you cleared everything up very nicely, and added some cool bonus info on top of that! (Are those four Primal Classes the only ones in ph2, or are there also more? I feel GREEDY! )
There's 8 classes altogether, the 4 WD said+ Avenger, Bard, Invoker, & Sorceror. There are also some new races. Below is from wikipedia (Player's Handbook - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), which is a legitimate news source according to CNN, who reference it often during their newscasts.
The 4th edition Player's Handbook 2, subtitled Arcane, Divine and Primal Heroes,[24] is scheduled for release in March 2009.[24] The Player's Handbook 2 will include eight classes: the avenger[25], barbarian[26], bard[27], druid[28], invoker[29], shaman[30], sorcerer[31] and warden[32], and five races[33], of which gnomes, half-orcs and shifters[34] have been confirmed. Goliaths and devas (previously named aasimars) have been confirmed to be in the Player's Handbook 2 as well
There's 8 classes altogether, the 4 WD said+ Avenger, Bard, Invoker, & Sorceror. There are also some new races. Below is from wikipedia (Player's Handbook - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), which is a legitimate news source according to CNN, who reference it often during their newscasts.
The 4th edition Player's Handbook 2, subtitled Arcane, Divine and Primal Heroes,[24] is scheduled for release in March 2009.[24] The Player's Handbook 2 will include eight classes: the avenger[25], barbarian[26], bard[27], druid[28], invoker[29], shaman[30], sorcerer[31] and warden[32], and five races[33], of which gnomes, half-orcs and shifters[34] have been confirmed. Goliaths and devas (previously named aasimars) have been confirmed to be in the Player's Handbook 2 as well
AH, HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
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Yup, that's what happened to my HERO game. I took a 'short sabbatical' and never was able to really pick it up again. That's why I'm trying to do at least a little work on the Ihmlán game every day - keeping it fresh and in the front of my head.
And I was really kinda sorry to see your HERO game go, I never got to play Cairn MacSidhe as much as I wanted to do. But I'm even more excited about playing Houwlou Growlenas and I hope to to great and wonderful things with my Olcan Ranger!
Everyone take careful note of renau1g's IC post this morning (post #78 in IC #1). That is the format I would truly prefer for tactical (combat) posts. Note the way he breaks the round's actions down into move action, standard action, and minor action. Also note the Mini Stat Block that has ALL the goodies! The only change that I would suggest to the mini stat block would be to show Healing Surges Currently Remaining, in place of Healing Surges/Day.
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Hope you're feeling better, Dad! And the stat block looks substantially just like what I was asking for.
But, there needs to be a way for EVERYONE to indicate in their stat blocks which daily and encounter powers they have already used for the present encounter. That's just too much for me to keep track of mentally. Now, if I was younger, I might coulda done it. But not any more, sadly!
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(Are those four Primal Classes the only ones in ph2, or are there also more? I feel GREEDY! 
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