Yttermayn's "Saga of the Dragon Cult"

[Scott DeWar]

thanks for the focused specialist. I do have a possible metat game question. whick would benifit the party more...trans muter, invoker or conjurer?

[Helfdan]

Never mind.... this is not the post you are looking for... move along...

[maddmic]

so what are these races I'm seeing? I'm just wondering if I'm being left out in the cold playing a vanilla half-orc if there's other options on the table. I don't have all the books available to me, so I was curious if there was something else out there.

The troll looks like there should be an ECL associated with it unless I'm missing something...

I'm not trying to be nitpicky or anything, I'm just trying to better my character if there's a way. Please let me know what books you're allowing, or if you can see any other race that might benefit me.

[Voda Vosa]

Can't lose if you play a human. We rule, that's a fact.

[Scott DeWar]

Originally Posted by Voda Vosa

Can't lose if you play a human. We rule, that's a fact.

hoo yah! huamns are the l33t! (and all that other stuff)

by the way, Madmid, you can see the list of books allowed in the first second or third post. if not ther look acouple moe down the line. I know they are posted, just cant think of it through this headache.

if there is something you like froma nother book, just ask 'y' and he will decide and let you know.

[Yttermayn]

Maddmic: Crazy Monkey is a DM on several other threads I play on. He's an excellent DM and has revised some of the savage species options so that instead of an ecl adjustment, they gain levels in thier race. Just because he's playing a troll, dosn't mean he's starting with regeneration- he's still a juvenile and dosn't get that until he's got 4 levels of troll. Within limits, he can multiclass to other player classes, but of course doing that means delaying his developement as a troll. As far as your own character goes, there is nothing wrong with him as he is. Savage species dosn't really give you an advantage over normal races, just more variety if you really want to play something wierd. It's actually kind of a hassle, because you have to make some agonizing choices about the character's developement due to the leveling race system. Basically, unless you want to be more than just the monster, you have to multiclass. Multiclassing often sucks with monsters, because you almost always end up diluting both classes. It's kind of like multiclassing a spellcaster class with something else.
I often end up playing something wierd in Monkey's games because I am old and jaded and wierd. So when he shows up wanting to play in my game (kind of an honor, actually), I am willing to work with him on using one of his custom savage species races.
Given all of that, if you still want to play one of them, I'll work with you. But, you'll have to get Monkey to write up a progression for you, and if I feel it's balanced, we'll go with it.

[Scott DeWar]

in one of Monkey's games he plays a centaur, while in an other he plays a shapechanging giant spider, fey, thingy

[crazy_monkey1956]

And to follow up on that, here's a list of the progressions I've already done.

Angel, Astral Deva
Animal Class, Wolf (used with the Anthropomorphic Animal or Lycanthrope Template Classes)
Athropomorphic Animal
Aranea
Centaur
Dragon, Crystal
Eladrin, Ghaele
Elemental, Earth (recently revised thanks to feedback )
Genie, Janni
Githzerai, Psionic
Golem, Flesh
Half-Celestial
Half-Giant
Half-Vampire
Inevitable, Zelekhut (modified into a humanoid configuration)
Loxo
Medusa
Mind Flayer
Nimblewright
Scorpionfolk
Sprite, Pixie
Troll
Yuan-ti

[Scott DeWar]

what also would have been cool is if you had left a link to these progressions


how about an Astral Deva Focused Conjurer? What does he conjure? celstrial dire badgers of course!

[crazy_monkey1956]

I don't have them online anywhere yet. I can either attach them here (but I only do that sparingly) or e-mail them to folks.

[Scott DeWar]

Originally Posted by crazy_monkey1956

I don't have them online anywhere yet. I can either attach them here (but I only do that sparingly) or e-mail them to folks.

sent you a PM.

[maddmic]

Ah, my mistake then. I appologize. I now recollect the levelling as a race in addition or in place of levelling in a class. I didn't realize that these were races that you could take levels in.

I'll stick with the half-orc dummy and hopefully have a character sheet up some time tonight.

[Scott DeWar]

got it. like it. just not sure how to/if can start as a wizard.

[Scott DeWar]

i think i will remain human, and just incororate an astral deva into his history for the fun of it. maybe I can take Leadership later and have the astral deva as a cohort.

[Yttermayn]

Sounds good, all. Everybody please try to get sheets up for review tonight, if at all possible. Thanks!

[Amaury]

Rosalia 'work-in-progress' sheet...

Rosalia Level 1

Name: Rosalia
Class: Rogue
Race: Human
Size: Medium
Gender: Female
Alignment: CN
Deity: XXXX

Str: 10 +0 (03p.)     Level: 1        XP: 0
Dex: 16 +3 (10p.)     BAB: +0         HP: 7 (1d6+1)
Con: 12 +1 (02p.)     Grapple: +0     Dmg Red: XX/XXXX
Int: 14 +2 (06p.)     Speed: 30'      Spell Res: XX
Wis: 12 +1 (02p.)     Init: +3        Spell Save: +X
Cha: 14 +2 (04p.)     ACP: -0         Spell Fail: XX%

                   Base  Armor Shld   Dex  Size   Nat  Misc  Total
Armor:Leather       10    +2    +0    +3    +0    +0    +0    15
Touch: 13          
Flatfooted: 12

                   Base   Mod  Misc  Total
Fort:               0     +1          +1
Ref:                2     +3          +5
Will:               0     +1          +1

Weapon             Attack   Damage     Critical
Rapier               +0      1d6+0      18-20/x2
Shortbow             +3      1d6+0         x3
Dagger               +0      1d4+0      19-20/x2


Languages: Common, Dwarven, Elven

Abilities: Sneak Attack +1d6, Trapfinding

Feats: Improved Initiative (Hu), Nimble fingers (1st lvl)

Skill Points: (8+2)x4 + 4 (hu) = 44     Max Ranks: 4/2
Skills                   Ranks  Mod  Misc  Total
Bluff                       4    +2          +6
Climb                       1    +0          +1
Diplomacy                   4    +2          +6
Disable Device              4    +2    +2    +8
Disguise                    4    +2          +6
Gather Info                 4    +2          +6
Hide                        4    +3          +7
Intimidate                  1    +3          +4
Move Silently               4    +3          +7
Open Lock                   4    +3          +7
Perform (dance)             2    +2          +4
Search                      4    +2    +2    +8
Sense Motive                1    +1          +2
Sleight of Hand             1    +3          +4
Tumble                      1    +3          +4
Use Rope                    1    +3          +6

Equipment:                 Weight     Cost (gp)
Rapier                       2.0        20.0
Shortbow                     2.0        30.0
Dagger                       1.0         2.0
Arrows(20)                   2.0         1.0
MW Thief tools               2.0       100.0
Backpack                     2.0         2.0
Candles (10)                 0.0         0.5
Fishhook                     0.0         0.1
Flint & Steel                0.0         1.0
Sack                         1.0         0.1
Soap                         1.0         0.5
Small miror
Comb&Make-up
My outfit                    --          --
Leather Armor               15.0        10.0 

Total Weight:28lb      Money:  gp sp 0cp

                       Lgt   Med   Hvy  Lift  Push
Max Weight:             38   76    115   230   575

Age: 23
Height: 5'5"
Weight: 128lb
Eyes: green
Hair: light brown
Skin: white

[crazy_monkey1956]

Scrag has been posted in the Rogue's Gallery thread.

He's lacking in gear as I wasn't certain how you wanted to handle starting gold.

[Scott DeWar]

John tannerson is in the rg thread, still getting fine tuned. the history is a bit wordy. just to forwarn you.

[Voadam]

I updated mine earlier, I used the starting package from CA, just ditched the weapons and kept the gold.

Do you want me to put him in the RG now or after you look it over?

[Yttermayn]

Voadam, go ahead and post him. I'll post there if there are any problems.
Monkey, Looking good.
Scott, looks like you're still working on your wizard. Please be sure to sblock him!
Amaury, also still working on her I see.
Anybody hear from Walking Dad lately?