Jemals school of hard knocks

[Rathan]

The I guess I'm good then heh.... feats are ok then Jemal? little better than stacking them all on top of turning?

[Theroc]

I will most likely play a Duskblade, if they are permitted.

Just need to see if I can find all the info I need. I believe Rhun will be helping me out a bit with that. Will get a sheet up once I'm positive how the class will be setup and all.

[Jemal]

Rathan - Aye

Theroc - Duskblade's a good choice.

[GlassEye]

Originally Posted by Jemal

Glasseye - I'm going to have to say no to complete champion, I have no way of accessing it, and what I HAVE seen has left a bad taste in my mouth

Not a problem. And I'm already noticing some other minor things I'd like to change so I wouldn't look too closely at the character yet.

[GlassEye]

Originally Posted by Jemal

Crafting a shotgun would be a complex task, probably DC 20-25. Also, if you plan on doing pre-game crafting, you should know that I require any pre-game crafting to be done by taking 10. IE if you can craft an item taking 10, you can craft it. Otherwise you have to wait till the game starts, or buy it normally.

I would assume this applies to pre-game Handle Animal training?

[Jemal]

yes.

[Voda Vosa]

Great, probably tomorrow I'll have something done

[GlassEye]

Aside from a few small things my character is done and I'll be posting it soon. I do have a couple of questions, though. What's your opinion of the Arcane Hierophant from Races of the Wild? My pc is currently set up to be able to go in that direction should we ever get that far and if it is allowed.

More importantly, animal companion... I was thinking about a black swan. Obviously, there isn't a swan in the books so I was wondering if you would allow using the eagle stats for a swan with whatever changes might be necessary? If not, I'd probably go with a wolf.

Edit: Also, with your permission, I would like to use the PBH2 alternate class feature Bardic Knack instead of Bardic Knowledge.

[Jemal]

All of that is OK, I suppose, though I'll have to look over the Animals section and find something, b/c Eagle and Swan don't mesh very well IMO

[GlassEye]

I admit the similarity is tenuous. Don't go to a lot of extra trouble, it was just an idea. I can always go with the wolf.

[Rhun]

Originally Posted by GlassEye

I admit the similarity is tenuous. Don't go to a lot of extra trouble, it was just an idea. I can always go with the wolf.

I was bit by a big swan once...it left a bruise. I don't think I would have been so lucky had it been an eagle.

[Voda Vosa]

Here's a sketch, lacks background and items mostly. Just to see if my math are fine.

Gnome Wizard

 Name: Dalomock Zalim
Class: Wizard Illusionist
Race: gnome
Size: small
Gender: Male
Alignment: chaotic good


Str: 08 -1 -2     Level: 2         XP: 1000
Dex: 12 +1        BAB: +1         HP: 19
Con: 18 +4 +2     Grapple: 0     Dmg Red: 
Int: 18 +4        Speed: 20'      Spell Res: 
Wis: 10 +0        Init: +1        Spell Save: +0
Cha: 08 -1        ACP: 0          Spell Fail: 0%

                Base  Armor Shld   Dex  Size   Nat  Misc  Total
Armor:          10    +0    +0     +1    +1    +0    +0    12
Touch: 11              Flatfooted: 11

                           Base   Mod  Misc  Total
Fort:                      0     +4          +3
Ref:                       0     +1          +1
Will:                      3     +0          +3

Weapon                Attack   Damage     Critical
Light corssbow          +2      1d6         x 2 
Quarterstaff            +0      1d4         x2

Languages: Gnome, Dwarven, Elven, Draconic, Common
Class:  Familiar, Scribe scroll, Spells	
Feats: Spell Focus (Illusion)

Skill Points: 24+6       Max Ranks: 5/2
Skills                   Ranks  Mod  Misc  Total
Spellcraft                   5    +4          +9
Knowledge(arcana)            5    +4          +9
Concentration                5    +4          +9
Craft (alchemy)              5    +4    +2   +11
Decipher Script              5    +4          +9
Knowledge(Nature)            5    +4          +9

Equipment:               Cost  Weight
Familiar (Toad)         100gp                  
Light Crossbow
Quarterstaff
Wizard robes
Spellbook

                       Lgt   Med   Hvy  Lift  Push 500
Max Weight:           1-33  34-66 67-100 100

Prhibited schools: divination, Necromancy

Spell DC: 4 (int) + Spell Level

Spells (4 lvl 0, +1 ill & 3 lvl 1, +1 ill)

Level 1
Magic missile
Mage armor
Color spray
Shield
Disguise Self
Silent Image
Reduce Person
Feather Fall
Burning Hands

Age: 59
Height: 1 meters
Weight: 35 kg
Eyes: blue
Hair: black
Skin: withe

[Jemal]

As Rhun pointed out, attack modes would be rather dissimilar. I like the swan idea, but I think it would be one of what's referred to as a 'non-combat' pet... which doesn't fit in very well with the Arcane Heirophant's "uber-familiar"

[Theroc]

Hrm... not finding what I need for the Duskblade.

Thinking I may try a Paladin or go back to the Cleric idea.

Are you allowing any paladin variants from the Unearthed Arcana?

[renau1g]

Originally Posted by Jemal

As Rhun pointed out, attack modes would be rather dissimilar. I like the swan idea, but I think it would be one of what's referred to as a 'non-combat' pet... which doesn't fit in very well with the Arcane Heirophant's "uber-familiar"

Yeah, swan's are crazy, but not in the same way that a bird of prey trained for war would be, nor to the same level a wolf or bear is.

Now... I still wouldn't mess with them, my friend was attacked by one while we were in Cedar point one time (amusement park in Ohio, USA) when he fell into the area were a bunch were hanging out. I was great fun to watch him run from the swan chasing him...

[Myth and Legend]

I went to the UK last fall and i saw the falconer at Warwick castle. The large birds of pray are very strong and have long claws. They are hard to train (as they are not very intelligent), but a swan is nothing more than a snack to one of the larger predators.

[GlassEye]

Ok, it seems we are all agreed that a swan isn't workable for the purpose of an animal companion. A wolf is equally acceptable to the theme of the character (Apollo at 2nd level) so I will have a wolf companion instead. Unless Jemal lets me have a giant cicada instead. j/k!

[renau1g]

He can bury himself and in 17 years he'll be ready for battle

[GlassEye]

Hey, I could get lucky and have one on a 13 year cycle.

Anyway, Cal is finished and updated (except for that spare 300 gold but I figure it can go for meat for the canine).

[ishalleatyourflesh]

as always i come in late and try to muscle my way in... so i was thinking a kobold dragonfire adept from dragon magic... that thinks he's a baby white dragon...

so i guess dragon magic would be my source but i would like the feats from races of dragon, the other option would be to take dragon shaman and the class suck more then the dragon fire adept...