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Old 16th May 2009, 01:24 AM   #261 (permalink)
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Does Hideous Blow provoke Attacks of Opportunity?
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Old 16th May 2009, 01:25 AM   #262 (permalink)
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Old 16th May 2009, 01:30 AM   #263 (permalink)
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Does Hideous Blow provoke Attacks of Opportunity?
Wow, great question. I'm not sure.
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Old 16th May 2009, 01:31 AM   #264 (permalink)
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Old 16th May 2009, 01:32 AM   #265 (permalink)
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Does Hideous Blow provoke Attacks of Opportunity?
After further research, I would say this is a DM's call. Using an Invocation usually provokes AoO, and while the reading of the invocation doesn't remove that limitation, it almost implies that there is no AoO.

Might put a post up in the Rules forum and see what the learned sages there have to say.
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Old 16th May 2009, 01:36 AM   #266 (permalink)
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Tossing a topic up there for input.

Hideous Blow would well... kinda blow if it provoked AoO's. Since... giving people free hits on me is really bad, lol.
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Old 16th May 2009, 01:42 AM   #267 (permalink)
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I'm not even sure what the source is for Hideous Blow. help?
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Comp. Arcane.. it's a warlock invocation power.... pg 134
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Old 16th May 2009, 01:45 AM   #269 (permalink)
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I'm not even sure what the source is for Hideous Blow. help?
Hideous Blow(CArc p134)
<Invocation(blast shape)>
– As a Standard Action, make one melee attack.
If the hit is successful (even if it does not
damage), then treat the opponent as if he/she
were also hit with the invoker’s Eldritch Blast
(including any special effects due to Eldritch
Essence invocations).
Effective Spell Level: 1st.
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Old 16th May 2009, 01:45 AM   #270 (permalink)
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It is counter-intuitive that it would provoke AoO, but it doesn't say that it doesn't, and it is a invocation.
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Old 16th May 2009, 01:47 AM   #271 (permalink)
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Ok, got it. Since it is a melee attack, there's really no O for an AoO, capiche? You're making a melee attack and channeling your eldritch blast through the attack. So you've got your full, usual guard up, I would say. Anyone else care to contribute, Rhun?
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in *MY* opinion as a DM in other games I'd allow it with no AoO's due to the invocation... based solely on this....

It's not overpowered in my opinion as you only get a single attack with it when doing so and I do believe you would only get THAT attack that round regardless of extra attacks you might have for being higher level....

EDIT: In fact I think doing so that was is a bit UNDERPOWERED as you have to hit with melee weapon attack vs. AC rather than your standard eldritch blast which is a ray and makes a ranged touch attack vs. touch AC.... soo much easier that way than through a weapon heh

all in all though I'm glad you made the choice to make it a non-AoO worthy strike..... yay Theroc! LOL
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Sounds good to me, Rathan. Let's do it his way, k?
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Old 16th May 2009, 01:52 AM   #274 (permalink)
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Fine by me. So longs as I don't have Giant's slapping me around each time I stab them.
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I have to agree that I'd rule no AoO. If your warlock is brave enough to get up close and personal, he is going to have enough issues without worrying about that.
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Get the hell out of Gomlars way and it won't have to slap you around :P
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You been reading my module???

I take the blame. I've been telling him that his melee warlock is going to get slapped around by giants and generally scaring the hell out of him.
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Get the hell out of Gomlars way and it won't have to slap you around :P
And if you don't get out of the way, Gomlar will run you down!
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hey theroc, you have the MIC right? they have some nasty things for warlocks in there.
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