Sure, man, Complete Arcane, Complete Mage are both pretty much always ok with me, with the sole exception of the Precocious Apprentice feat, and since we're starting at 12th level, even THAT would be ok for this game! (Since all it would still do at this point is give you 1 extra 2nd level spell/day, which, to me, doesn't really seem like much to get in exchange for burning a feat!)
Oh, and Leif...did you finish going through your adventures? What did you choose, if you don't mind me being extremly nosey?
I'm almost sure, but not quite. Need to do some more reading. I've got it down to three, but I really haven't looked at one of those 3 at all, and there's another one that I've only lightly scanned. Obviously, I'm leaning towards the other one that I know the best, and it also seems to comport with a heavily Arcane party, too, which is a nice bonus. Nice try, dude, but that's all I'm prepared to say at this point.
Oh and to add to Rhun's nosey'ness.... can we get starting gold.. will it be more or less than 12th level starting?.... HP's?... Point buy for stats?... and if so how many points?.... no rush though.. I've got my character all made... I'll just have to tweak it a bit if it's more or less than what you go with
EDIT: Also for crafted items do we get an extra xp pool of some sort to craft items or will the xp be coming from our total 12th level starting xp?
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Abilities: 28 point buy, plus the 4th, 8th, and 12th level points, racial adjustments, etc.
hp: standard 'fixed hp rule.' (3 hp + con bonus/level for d4, 4+con for d6, 6+con for 48, 8+con for d10, 10+con for d12, I think. <- this is from my sometimes faulty memory, so what's in the 3.5 books for the 'fixed hp rule' trumps this post!)
Starting gold/equipment: 12th level standard, but no magic item with a price of over 28,000 gp. (I normally set a much, much lower 'per item' limit on magic, but, hey, I figure we might as well live a little, eh?) (Also, I'm not at all used to running a game for 12th level characters. The highest level that I have much experience with is about 5th-6th, so you guys may soon be cursing my name and burning me in effigy!)
Go ahead and get your characters planned as much as you can. I'll go ahead and start an RG thread for your convenience, but let's keep using this as our OOC thread for now.
Oh and to add to Rhun's nosey'ness.... can we get starting gold.. will it be more or less than 12th level starting?.... HP's?... Point buy for stats?... and if so how many points?.... no rush though.. I've got my character all made... I'll just have to tweak it a bit if it's more or less than what you go with
EDIT: Also for crafted items do we get an extra xp pool of some sort to craft items or will the xp be coming from our total 12th level starting xp?
I think I'll just ask
"When you get the stuff setup Leif, can you tell use the starting information and any houserules you have?"
Accessible at almost any time: http://www.d20srd.org/index.htm
Complete Arcane
Complete Scoundrel
Complete Mage
Complete Divine
Libre Mortis
Heroes of Horror
Drow of the Underdark
Monster Manual 3.5E
Monster Manual 2
DMG/PHB
Psionics Handbook
Expanded Psionics Handbook
Spell Compendium
Tome of Magic
These I can access rarely:
Complete Adventurer
Complete Warrior
Complete Psionic
Races of Stone
Draconomicon
Complete Champion
A few assorted Monstrous Manuals... I can't recall which ones.
I MAY be able to access the Forgotten Realms and Eberron Campaign settings.
hmmm.. well that shoots my golem manual right out the window as it's 22,000 gp... plus some of the items I have are 18,000 but only with them being crafted?.... that count the 18 grand limit?.... plus.. that's all dependent on the answer to my item crafting question....
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I think I'll just ask
"When you get the stuff setup Leif, can you tell use the starting information and any houserules you have?"
Post 64 has pretty much all you need in it. Houserules? Not really any that I'm aware of, but maybe I just take them for granted so much that I don't even realize that they are houserules!? I'll edit Post 64 to include permissible sources, too.
Does this mean that you taking me up on my offer as Alternate 1.0? Or am I already misremembering something? (No offense intended!!)
hmmm.. well that shoots my golem manual right out the window as it's 22,000 gp... plus some of the items I have are 18,000 but only with them being crafted?.... that count the 18 grand limit?.... plus.. that's all dependent on the answer to my item crafting question....
OOOPS! That was kinda the whole point of this, wasn't it? I'll edit, never fear! It's fixed. Limit raised to 28k. The limit applies to the out-of-pocket cost to the character, so, theoretically, I guess you can exceed the limit by making your own goodies. (And exceed it by a good long way, too!) Items can be combined, also -- for instance, making a ring that acts as +x protection + spell turning would cost the sum of those two rings, but a ring cannot hold more than 2 such enchantments, so no 'triple rings' or more. (Again, all of this is stated from memory. If there are rules covering this in a 3.5 book, then the book controls, and trumps my memory.)
hmmm.. well that shoots my golem manual right out the window as it's 22,000 gp... plus some of the items I have are 18,000 but only with them being crafted?.... that count for the 18 grand limit?.... plus.. that's all dependent on the answer to my item crafting question....
EDIT: Changed the name of the Thread Leif... hope you enjoy hehe...
__________________ Ashes to Ashes, Dust to Dust....... ok who casted disintegrate!? You Bastard! Has Returned! Check Us Out! Players Wanted!!!
hmmm.. well that shoots my golem manual right out the window as it's 22,000 gp... plus some of the items I have are 18,000 but only with them being crafted?.... that count for the 18 grand limit?.... plus.. that's all dependent on the answer to my item crafting question....
EDIT: Changed the name of the Thread Leif... hope you enjoy hehe...
Limit in Post 64 has been raised now to 28K. Does that accommodate the golem adequately? And I think I answered your other questions in other posts, already?
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hmm.. I'm gonna have to come up with a new concept, the tank concept i was planning needs STR, DEX, CON, and CHA to be workable, and with a 24 point buy I'd need to spend all of my gold just catching up to par.
I'm headin to bed now, but I'll figure out a different character concept that only needs 1 or 2 stats and post it after I get up tommorow.
just for the record could everybody repost their general character concept so we have an idea what the party looks like?
Oh, and Leif...does this take place in any certain world? Or should be just assume a completely generic setting, in which we can make up our own backgrounds and such?
__________________ -Rhun
"I believe that imagination is stronger than knowledge - myth is more potent than history - dreams are more powerful than facts - hope always triumphs over experience - laughter is the cure for grief - love is stronger than death." -Robert Fulghum
hmm.. I'm gonna have to come up with a new concept, the tank concept i was planning needs STR, DEX, CON, and CHA to be workable, and with a 24 point buy I'd need to spend all of my gold just catching up to par.
I'm headin to bed now, but I'll figure out a different character concept that only needs 1 or 2 stats and post it after I get up tommorow.
just for the record could everybody repost their general character concept so we have an idea what the party looks like?
Gosh, I thought 24-pt-buy was generous! Wanna make it 28 instead? Will that help? Let's go ahead and make it 28-pt buy. Not sure how much difference that will make, Jemal, but I'm trying, at least.
You thought 24 was generous? LOL. That's the lowest point buy I've ever gamed in, actually.
__________________ -Rhun
"I believe that imagination is stronger than knowledge - myth is more potent than history - dreams are more powerful than facts - hope always triumphs over experience - laughter is the cure for grief - love is stronger than death." -Robert Fulghum
Oh, and Leif...does this take place in any certain world? Or should be just assume a completely generic setting, in which we can make up our own backgrounds and such?
I had actually given this some thought, believe it or not. Unfortunately, I didn't reach a conclusion. But, now that I think about it more, I've been wanting to try some EBERRON stuff! How does everybody feel about putting the game on Eberron? If there are objections to that, how about The Realms? Otherwise, we'll just stick in somewhere else. Actually, one of the modules that I was looking at is set on a different published world, but I don't think I wanna set it on a world that I can't look at, so that's out. It probably won't matter, except maybe for Feats and so forth, right? Any 3.5 published feats are probably acceptable. If they're very unusual at all, though, you'd better run them by me to be sure.
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