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Old 14th May 2009, 04:16 AM   #121 (permalink)
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The thing I've found is if you give the players around here an inch, they'll take a mile. You list every possible book you could possibly have as a resource, and they still find others.
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Old 14th May 2009, 04:28 AM   #122 (permalink)
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I love combat, I love roleplaying. I'm not so fond of mystery, but I can adapt.

As to races of Dragon - the only thing I REALLY wanted out of it was the draconic template (Though that template's been reprinted in about 4 different sources, i think).

How bout I just pass it by you and see what you think?

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It's not a deal-breaker, It's just the easiest way I can play a dragon-type character.
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Old 14th May 2009, 04:51 AM   #123 (permalink)
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Somebody mentioned crafting, but I missed Leif's reply if any...what was the ruling on XPs available for crafting? Or do we have the minimum needed for 12th level?

Also Leif, what is your ruling for the cost of spells to be added to spellbooks? I know most DMs handle it differently since the PHB pricing is pretty up there...
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Old 14th May 2009, 06:20 AM   #124 (permalink)
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Is this a specificly aligned campaign, Is artificer ok for a class?
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Old 14th May 2009, 02:20 PM   #125 (permalink)
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The thing I've found is if you give the players around here an inch, they'll take a mile. You list every possible book you could possibly have as a resource, and they still find others.
Augh! So true!
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I love combat, I love roleplaying. I'm not so fond of mystery, but I can adapt.

As to races of Dragon - the only thing I REALLY wanted out of it was the draconic template (Though that template's been reprinted in about 4 different sources, i think).
How bout I just pass it by you and see what you think?
Draconic

+2 Str, +2 Con, +2 Cha, +1 Nat Armour, Low-light vision, Darkvision 60', +2 spot/Intimidate.
Level Adjustment: +1

It's not a deal-breaker, It's just the easiest way I can play a dragon-type character.
The mystery part won't be over powering or anything, so I don't think you'll have much to worry about.
Artificer? Sure, why not? Go for it!
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Somebody mentioned crafting, but I missed Leif's reply if any...what was the ruling on XPs available for crafting? Or do we have the minimum needed for 12th level?

Also Leif, what is your ruling for the cost of spells to be added to spellbooks? I know most DMs handle it differently since the PHB pricing is pretty up there...
Ooops, forgot about this one! Let's say that you have, I don't know, 3,000 xp above the minimum for 12th level, so everyone will have a total of 69,000 xp at start. The provide enough cushion for crafting? Too much? Not enough?

For cost of spells, just buy scrolls of the spells you want at book price. I'm not going to check your spellcraft rolls for this, so it's all 'honor system.' Enjoy!
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Is this a specificly aligned campaign, Is artificer ok for a class?
not aligned specifically, although I prefer that the party be generally good. Artificer is ok.

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Old 14th May 2009, 03:08 PM   #126 (permalink)
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I'm a bit confused. in response to my post you said
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The mystery part won't be over powering or anything, so I don't think you'll have much to worry about.
Artificer? Sure, why not? Go for it!
then in response to Vertexx's you said
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not aligned specifically, although I prefer that the party be generally good. Artificer is ok.
He's the only one who asked about artificer, but I did ask about Draconic - did you mean "draconic? Sure, why not?" or did you accidentally answer his question twice?


*EDIT: Also, just in case I find myself in the position to procure one(Unlikely but possible), what are your views on Intelligent items? Yay/nay?
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Old 14th May 2009, 03:59 PM   #127 (permalink)
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Sweet Leif! Sweetleaf? Ha! I've got a new nickname for you!

Seriously, though...I'll continue to work on my PC. Worst case scenario, he should be ready by the end of the weekend. The 3000xp buffer should be great.
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Old 14th May 2009, 04:03 PM   #128 (permalink)
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I like it Rhun. I'll get to work on my PC shortly as well.
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Old 14th May 2009, 04:25 PM   #129 (permalink)
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I'm just SLIGHTLY over the 3000 xp buffer mark Leif... any way we can up it to 4000 and make the starting xp an even 70,000... anything not used I will just wave as a thank you for being so kind and start at minimum of 12th level xp...

*sucks up to the DM with cookies and EnWorld XP..... hehe*
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Old 14th May 2009, 04:29 PM   #130 (permalink)
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He's the only one who asked about artificer, but I did ask about Draconic - did you mean "draconic? Sure, why not?" or did you accidentally answer his question twice?
Sorry, man, yeah, I meant, 'Draconic? Sure, why not?'

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Sweet Leif! Sweetleaf? Ha! I've got a new nickname for you!

Seriously, though...I'll continue to work on my PC. Worst case scenario, he should be ready by the end of the weekend. The 3000xp buffer should be great.
hehehe, are you familiar with the Black Sabbath song called "Sweet Leaf?" I'm not sure that I want to be remebered in that way. Actually, so far, the nickname that I've liked the most has beenthe one that my roommate bestowed upon me during my junior year of college: Leify-Boy. Or as he "usually" pronounced it (read: while inebriated), "Leifabwa."
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Old 14th May 2009, 04:33 PM   #131 (permalink)
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I'm just SLIGHTLY over the 3000 xp buffer mark Leif... any way we can up it to 4000 and make the starting xp an even 70,000... anything not used I will just wave as a thank you for being so kind and start at minimum of 12th level xp...

*sucks up to the DM with cookies and EnWorld XP..... hehe*


As I said...give an inch, take a mile! LOL
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Old 14th May 2009, 04:35 PM   #132 (permalink)
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hey hey now... have gave me an inch... I only want an inch and a half damn it... A mile is ridiculous :P
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hey hey now... have gave me an inch... I only want an inch and a half damn it... A mile is ridiculous :P
Tip for ya: I'm not going to have the time to look up and total up all the values (xp and/or gp) for every item for every character. So, to maintain my equality of treatment for the characters, that means that I can't do it for ANY of them. In other words, get somewhere near the ballpark, don't mention it again, and I doubt if anyone will notice. This applies to everyone. And, to all of you Special Double Secret Narcs out there: QUIT IT! Don't go looking for trouble, and there won't be no trouble.
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Old 14th May 2009, 05:15 PM   #134 (permalink)
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And, to all of you Special Double Secret Narcs out there: QUIT IT! Don't go looking for trouble, and there won't be no trouble.
Hey now, what am I going to do for fun now
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Tip for ya: I'm not going to have the time to look up and total up all the values (xp and/or gp) for every item for every character. So, to maintain my equality of treatment for the characters, that means that I can't do it for ANY of them. In other words, get somewhere near the ballpark, don't mention it again, and I doubt if anyone will notice. This applies to everyone. And, to all of you Special Double Secret Narcs out there: QUIT IT! Don't go looking for trouble, and there won't be no trouble.

You go Sweetleif! Tell 'em how it is!
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Old 14th May 2009, 05:22 PM   #136 (permalink)
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Whenever you call him that... ALL I can picture is Sweetchuck from the Police Academy movies... don't ask me why.. I guess cause the name is similar.. funny none-the-less though LOL
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Dunno. Pull the wings off flies?
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You go Sweetleif! Tell 'em how it is!
Thanks for ur support! I'm surprised that there are not more, similar insructions given all over ENWorld.
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Whenever you call him that... ALL I can picture is Sweetchuck from the Police Academy movies... don't ask me why.. I guess cause the name is similar.. funny none-the-less though LOL
Hmmm, maybe we'd better nip this in the bud? I never actually watched any of the Police Academy movies, but from what I remember of the general hype, I'm not sure that's something I want to be associated with? Maybe SourLeif?

Or maybe go for that Chinee take-out feel: SweetnSourLeif?

Did I adequately address your issue, Rathan? Capiche??

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How about....

Leif Erickson! Explorer Extraordinaire!

I think it has a nice ring to it.... yes yes.. me likie...

Yea I'm well aware of a DM handwave when I see one LOL
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If it makes you feel better, I think there was Saurial named Sweetleaf in one of the Forgotten Realms novels.
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Leif Erickson! Explorer Extraordinaire!

I think it has a nice ring to it.... yes yes.. me likie...

Yea I'm well aware of a DM handwave when I see one LOL
Truth be told, I was quasi- named after Leif Ericson (but not really): My parents named me Christopher Leif, and only later noticed that they had chosen the names of two famous explorers (Columbus and Ericson). But, actually, my name was chosen primarily for its initials: I am the third generation in my father's family to have the firstborn male named with the initials C.L.
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