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Old 21st July 2009, 04:00 AM   #201 (permalink)
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CaBaNa: Does participating in the ritual cost anything other than healing surges?
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Old 21st July 2009, 04:04 AM   #202 (permalink)
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As far as I can tell, there are no items that increase the number of surges, only the surges value.
The only thing that's even close that I can think of is one I took, the ring of tenacious will, which lets you sub your chr mod for your con mod on your surges per day.

And writing that reminds me, I think I left its daily power off my sheet.
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Old 21st July 2009, 05:03 AM   #203 (permalink)
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As far as I can tell, there are no items that increase the number of surges, only the surges value.
I think you're right, there are some items that allow you to heal for what your surge value would be I think (or maybe that's just my utility I forget)
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Old 21st July 2009, 05:07 AM   #204 (permalink)
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Any cost on the particpation (money), cause Batin doesn't have any.

We'll have to figure out why Batin was hanging around if we do.
Ha! It's funny that Demigods and Liches are broke as ****. Kalas is poor as well.
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Old 21st July 2009, 07:21 AM   #205 (permalink)
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Batin, Master of All Places is up. Removed his explicit connection to the Raven Queen (as that wasn't really apropos now), but did add ties to each character:
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It is Batin's unique mastery that has brought Batin to the attention of many. By some fate, or karma, or doom, he is often in the place that he is needed most. While it was Seranax the Reaper that slew the death giant Ruskvold, it was Batin's knowledge of the crypt tunnels that showed the dragonborn the way. When the one known now as Massacre broke the boundary of time, the master of space showed him how to navigate the passages of thought once more. It is rumored that the great Kylek first heard of the depravities of Ch'thuul from a shadar-kai wanderer of similar appearance to Batin. And it was said that a master of sword magic was at the helm of the astral skiff that delivered Kalas the Merciless to a hidden githyanki stronghold. Sometimes there are rumors that Batin was in different places at the same time. To which Batin only smiles his inscrutable smile.
Batin can donate HS to Orelal's rituals if it doesn't tie him down to one place too long...
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Old 21st July 2009, 03:51 PM   #206 (permalink)
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No cost out side of healing surges

Rituals are nice that way.
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Old 21st July 2009, 04:17 PM   #207 (permalink)
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A couple things I noticed.
- You have the magic item listed as jagged broadsword in the stat block, but it should be a bastard sword
- In the stat block he's listed as a Rouge, but isn't he a swordmage?
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Old 21st July 2009, 04:41 PM   #208 (permalink)
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Perception is from Eladrin Education, Stealth is from the background Birth Among Another Race (Shadar-Kai) Stealth as a class skill...
Ok, I missed the background. That's fine, then.


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I am Eladrin, and increase my teleport distance by 2 instead of 1. (does the daily power of this benefit from the property, I know it says "not including" but does that mean I should do 6+2 in order to include?)
Problem is, Fey Step teleports you 5 squares, so adding 2 gets you 7. As I read it, the ring's daily power does benefit from its property, so you teleport 8 squares with the daily item power.

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It has implement as a keyword, so I believe it would receive everything any other power with the implement keyword would receive. I can't shed any light beyond that... When you make a decision for how it functions let me know, and I'll update.
Yeah, I need to do some more research, I think. What I'm looking for is to see how the CB handles enhancement bonuses to damage with other powers that don't involve any dice, e.g. Cleave, Reaping Strike, etc. If there's some consistency, that might imply an interpretation.

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I just realized they are from Dragon 373... Mundane +1 item bonus to hide or move silently respectively. May I have them? please...
Hide? Move silently? What are these strange terms you speak of? Funny, the compendium doesn't know anything about these items.

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I had 20,000 left over from taking Cloak of Distortion (Level 19) instead of a Level 20 item. Which was cleared for others here. If that is not ok let me know. That does put me up 10,000g. The majority of which will be converted into ritual components I'm sure...
Yeah, that's not a problem. What I've been doing with these characters is trying to recreate them in the CB one step at a time. I give 800,000g and start buying things, and check that I don't run out of cash before I run out of items to buy. The confusion is with the free wizard rituals. I tried to pick out the most expensive rituals to give you for free and buy the rest, but I'm not at all sure I did it right. That could easily account for the missing cash.


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New question, Does my shroud of life and death kick in if I walk up to a creature? They have come within 3 squares of me... I don't see why it wouldn't. But have been wrong on things like this too many times not to ask.
No, but it does kick in next time they start their turn, if they're still within 3 squares of you at the time.
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Old 21st July 2009, 05:14 PM   #209 (permalink)
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Hide? Move silently? What are these strange terms you speak of? Funny, the compendium doesn't know anything about these items.
Should be listed under adventuring gear in the CB. They grant a +1 to stealth checks to hide (camo) and to move silently (footpads). They cost 30gp for the camo and 5 gp for the footpads.
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Old 21st July 2009, 07:45 PM   #210 (permalink)
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Just popping in to say I'm here. I don't think there's any more changes needed on Sarenax, at least for now. Cov, I'm fine with making Divine Power changes after the first encounter, if that's cool with you.

Anyway, I'll catch up on this thread soon, take a look at everyone's characters ... but I've got a ton of other threads to catch up on as well.

Stonegod: I like the tidbit on Batin you posted in the thread here. Seems to fit his mystery quite well
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Old 21st July 2009, 10:47 PM   #211 (permalink)
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Cabana: I just realized that I totally forgot about the free expertise bonuses when looking at your sheet. I think all your attack rolls should be 2 higher!

Stonegod:

I don't see that you have any trained skills picked, and your skill listings... don't look complete. The numbers in the CB summary look fine.

Trouble with your feats: you have 2 epic feats there, quickened spellcasting and total aegis. No problems there; you get 1 at 21 and retrain into the other at the same time. But you also have Greater Swordmage Warding, which requires 13 Con. You only get 13 Con at level 21, so you don't qualify for it earlier. I've left off the Quickened Spellcasting for the moment, since that lets me look at everything else more easily.

Stalker of the in-between is referenced, but not listed in your character sheet.

Bleeding Backstab? Rogue tactics? Is this stuff left over from a previous version?

Powers all look good.
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Old 21st July 2009, 10:52 PM   #212 (permalink)
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So I've had a good look at everyone's character now, except Ata, and they're all reasonably close to being ready to go. I'm inclined to get started -- not tonight, I'm out of time, but perhaps as soon as tomorrow -- and have Anostor come barging in fashionably late when Ata gets things sorted out. Thoughts? Any last second drastic changes?
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Old 21st July 2009, 11:37 PM   #213 (permalink)
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Problem is, Fey Step teleports you 5 squares, so adding 2 gets you 7. As I read it, the ring's daily power does benefit from its property, so you teleport 8 squares with the daily item power.
Consider it changed... Somewhere down the line, in my mind, Eladrin started teleporting their speed...


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Yeah, I need to do some more research, I think. What I'm looking for is to see how the CB handles enhancement bonuses to damage with other powers that don't involve any dice, e.g. Cleave, Reaping Strike, etc. If there's some consistency, that might imply an interpretation.
Damage isn't my main goal anyway, so I'm open to whatever.

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Should be listed under adventuring gear in the CB. They grant a +1 to stealth checks to hide (camo) and to move silently (footpads). They cost 30gp for the camo and 5 gp for the footpads.
Thanks for getting to this before I could, much appreciated.


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Cabana: I just realized that I totally forgot about the free expertise bonuses when looking at your sheet. I think all your attack rolls should be 2 higher!
WOOHOO!!

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So I've had a good look at everyone's character now, except Ata, and they're all reasonably close to being ready to go. I'm inclined to get started -- not tonight, I'm out of time, but perhaps as soon as tomorrow -- and have Anostor come barging in fashionably late when Ata gets things sorted out. Thoughts? Any last second drastic changes?
WOOHOO!!

Sorry I haven't done my ritual rolls yet. I'll get to it very very soon!

I'll also get to updating my CS in the RG soon as well.
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Old 22nd July 2009, 12:05 AM   #214 (permalink)
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I'm all set. Thanks again cov.
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Old 22nd July 2009, 01:02 AM   #215 (permalink)
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Excellent, Kylek craves action.
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Old 22nd July 2009, 01:59 AM   #216 (permalink)
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Fixed. Did copy from Kern, so there are some remnants. Should be gone now.
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Old 22nd July 2009, 10:27 AM   #217 (permalink)
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Well, I still have to scan through the other PCs, and I want to do a final math-check on Sarenax's items, but other than that I think I'm good to go. Thanks for keeping the ball rolling on this one, cov

Also ... apparently this is a published adventure! I didn't know they'd published an epic module, at first I thought you were just using E1 to denote that you wanted this to become a campaign if it was successful ... I guess using a module makes the whole mess of figuring out what works and what doesn't at epic level on the DM side a bit easier.
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Old 22nd July 2009, 01:32 PM   #218 (permalink)
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Haha, yes, it's a published adventure. E2 is out now, though I've not read it, and I think there's supposed to be an E3 coming as well. But we've got this one to get through first...
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Old 22nd July 2009, 02:52 PM   #219 (permalink)
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Yeah there's an E3 (not the game convention )

[ame=http://www.amazon.ca/Prince-Undeath-Adventure-Dungeons-Dragons/dp/0786952474/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1248267163&sr=8-1]Prince of Undeath: Adventure E3 for 4th Edition Dungeons & Dragons: Amazon.ca: Bruce R. Cordell, Scott Fitzgerald Gray: Books[/ame]

You appear to have to battle Orcus based on the front cover, maybe I should sneak over to the Char Op boards on WOTC site to find that PC that kills Orcus in one round

I know I'm excited for :[ame]http://www.amazon.ca/Revenge-Giants-4th-Super-Adventure/dp/0786952059/ref=pd_sim_b?ie=UTF8&qid=1248267163&sr=8-1[/ame] mostly because I love giants (and I need to use those large and huge minis for something)
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Darn, I should've made Sarenax a Wis cleric and took Demigod, then I could use Seal of Binding and Divine Regeneration to solo-kill Orcus
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