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Old 21st October 2009, 05:51 PM   #81 (permalink)
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I'm glad I checked in before bed. Man is it way past my bedtime.

I guess I need to look at the feat closer I didn't know it was +11 bab.

Is there a way to show the poor rolls as well as a 2nd reroll? If you feel the first ones are bad enough you can reroll the whole thing over once. You're stuck with what you get unless I decide the 2nd roll isn't going to work. How about that?

Would it be better if the in character stuff is pushed back until Monday? I just want to make sure everyone is ready and has their character the way they want it.
Well, with the roller I use (Invisiblecastle), I can't set up a reroll easily, besides doing 3d6(takehighest2) and adding six. But that isn't exactly a reroll. What I CAN do, is link you to the original rolls, and then the secondary rolls if I'm not happy with my originaly rolls.

Or would you rather I just use the 25 point buy?
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Old 22nd October 2009, 02:18 AM   #82 (permalink)
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Old 22nd October 2009, 05:46 AM   #83 (permalink)
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Alrighty. I'll try to get worked up in a few days. If stuff gets in my way(may have a busy weekend and whatnot, and who knows if something will come up tomorrow), just start without me and my rogue can make a dashing entrance later... unless that's a problem, of course.
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Old 22nd October 2009, 05:48 AM   #84 (permalink)
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Old 22nd October 2009, 10:04 AM   #86 (permalink)
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Or would you rather I just use the 25 point buy?
I used the 15 point buy. If we're using 25 points I need to do some rework.

For what its worth. 2d6+6, averages 13; *6 = 78; - 60 (0 points=10) = 18. So 2d6+6 is equivalent to an 18 point buy.

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I used the 15 point buy. If we're using 25 points I need to do some rework.

For what its worth. 2d6+6, averages 13; *6 = 78; - 60 (0 points=10) = 18. So 2d6+6 is equivalent to an 18 point buy.

Over to you Aeson.
Ah geez. So much work goes into this.lol I think this is what I get for saying go with what works for you. Give me a moment and I'll get back to you.
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ghostcat you do seem to be on the low side. I'll let you go with the 25 point buy. I hope that will get you more in line with the others.
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Yeah, with rolling, me, WD and jkason all have over 30 points. As much as you hate pointbuy Aeson, it has the benefit of making characters more balanced. Also, seems like Galeros only has 12 points worth of abilities, so it might be prudent for him to rework it a bit too...

I'm not against reworking either if you wish to standardise the creation. You're new to this, so I don't mind helping out...
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You have a point. I'm willing to work with it.

Blackrat and I go back a bit but I don't want the newer folks to stay silent. Tips and suggests will always be helpful.
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Yeah, with rolling, me, WD and jkason all have over 30 points. As much as you hate pointbuy Aeson, it has the benefit of making characters more balanced. Also, seems like Galeros only has 12 points worth of abilities, so it might be prudent for him to rework it a bit too...
My came from the one 18 I didn't boost with the racial bonus. End stats could be bought with fewer points.

Str:14 - 5
Dex:15 - 7
Con:16 - 10
Int:11 - 1
Wis:18 - 17
Cha:10 - 0

total: 40

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Str:16 - 10
Dex:15 - 7
Con:16 - 10
Int:11 - 1
Wis:18 (16) - 10
Cha:10 - 0

total 38

never mind.
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Old 22nd October 2009, 03:56 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Yeah. Rolling versus pointbuy is generally a bit of a tossup, and using different point buy methods will definitely create variance. I opted for 25 point buy, as I figured it would be closest to the numbers Blackrat had when I saw his. I had just eyeballed it, though, and hadn't attempted to engineer his stats with the pointbuy.

Using multiple stat generation methods can be complicated, so, I understand if you wish to standardize as well.
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Expanded Psionics Handbook
Spell Compendium
Tome of Magic

These I can access rarely:
Complete Adventurer
Complete Warrior
Complete Psionic
Races of Stone
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Complete Champion
A few assorted Monstrous Manuals... I can't recall which ones.

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Old 22nd October 2009, 03:59 PM   #93 (permalink)
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ghostcat you do seem to be on the low side. I'll let you go with the 25 point buy. I hope that will get you more in line with the others.
Thanks I'll update Ti accordingly. Personally, I prefer "point buy" to rolling, as my stats rolling sucks big time.
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Yeah, with rolling, me, WD and jkason all have over 30 points. As much as you hate pointbuy Aeson, it has the benefit of making characters more balanced. Also, seems like Galeros only has 12 points worth of abilities, so it might be prudent for him to rework it a bit too...

I'm not against reworking either if you wish to standardise the creation. You're new to this, so I don't mind helping out...
I can rework my stats if need be.

In fact, I will do it.

Here are his new stats.

HP: 11
AC: 12

Speed: 30 feet

Initiative: +2

Hit Die: d6

Base Attack Bonus: +1

Combat Maneuver Bonus=+0
Combat Maneuver Defense=12

Saves
Fort: +1
Ref: +2
Will: +4

Str: 8 - 1
Dex: 14 + 2
Con: 12 + 1
Int: 14 + 2
Wis: 12 + 1
Cha: 18 + 4 (16 base +2 for being Human)

Skills
Appraise 2 Ranks+3 Class Skill modifier+Int modifier=+7
Bluff 2 Ranks+3 Class Skill Bonus+Cha modifier=+9
Fly 2 Ranks+3 Class Skill Bonus+Dex modifier=+6
Knowledge (Arcana) 2 Ranks+3 Class Skill Bonus+Int modifier=+7
Knowledge (The Planes) 2 Ranks+3 Class Skill Bonus+int modifier=+7
Spellcraft 2 Ranks+3 Class Skill Bonus+Int modifier=+7

Spells are going to be:

Cantrips
Detect Magic
Read Magic
Presdigitation
Mage Hand
Light

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Eschew Materials (Sorcerer Bonus Feat)
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1st level-5

Spell Saving Throws
1st level-10+1+4=15

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Elemental Ray: 1d6+1 electricity damage, Ranged Touch Attack, Usable seven times per day.

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I used the Heroic roll because that looked to be what everyone else was using. I'm fine re-working with a point buy system if that's what's needed (actually, that's usually what I've done). Just let me know if you want them re-done and what point buy total you're looking for.

Also, since I think it fell by the wayside: anyone have a good Favored Enemy suggestion?

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I used the Heroic roll because that looked to be what everyone else was using. I'm fine re-working with a point buy system if that's what's needed (actually, that's usually what I've done). Just let me know if you want them re-done and what point buy total you're looking for.

Also, since I think it fell by the wayside: anyone have a good Favored Enemy suggestion?

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I think your stats look fine the way they are. No need to change.

I'd pick a favored enemy that dwells in caves and caverns. Duegar or Derro. Maybe even Drow. this going by your background of being from miners.
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I should have asked this before. How many of you are familiar with Second Darkness? Have you played any of it before?
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I should have asked this before. How many of you are familiar with Second Darkness? Have you played any of it before?
I am not familiar with ANY prefab adventure paths, save I've had a look at the War of the Burning Sky player's handbook thinger. Pretty sure that's an ENPublishing thing for 3.5 and 4th edition though, not for Pathfinder, so it shouldn't matter much.
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Monster Manual 2
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Psionics Handbook
Expanded Psionics Handbook
Spell Compendium
Tome of Magic

These I can access rarely:
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Complete Champion
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Second Darkness is 3.5. I'll need to work with the NPC stats a bit.
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As far as TRM's thread was. And I'm in a Rise of the Runelords and a Crimson Throne game. Love the background of this world. But the knowledge of this adventure is meager.

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