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Old 01-14-06, 04:29 PM   #241
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seems fair, does it require additional HP expenditure though from the "helpers"?

that would seem excessive...
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seems fair, does it require additional HP expenditure though from the "helpers"?

that would seem excessive...

No, since you are right, that would be excessive. The HP is to allow the jurry rigging, speeding up the process, but the assists shouldn't need to spend those points as well.
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Other than Body & Soul, are there other characters waiting for approval that I have not responded to in one way or another? I see a few in there that aren't approved, but either I haven't heard from them since giving feedback, or they haven't been submitted yet.
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Other than Body & Soul, are there other characters waiting for approval that I have not responded to in one way or another? I see a few in there that aren't approved, but either I haven't heard from them since giving feedback, or they haven't been submitted yet.



You can start judging Pandora if you like. The stats are set, but I was going to wait on submitting until I had the backstory written...which could be done today.
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Old 01-21-06, 02:33 AM   #246
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A quick question: Is there an official word on how supers are treated if they act as superheroes outside the Resolutes (vigilantes, basically)?

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We're currently only working with heroes in the Resolutes. that doesn't mean they;'re the only ones, just the only ones that will get missions. Others are good NPC fodder.

Once we get the world started some more, perhaps we can expand to another opertunity, but at the moment, the Resolutes are it.

I know it's not for everyone, but it's the easiest way to tie togeather a living group.
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FYI guys, I am going to be extremely tough on any Boost power. This is not directed at anyone, nor should it discourage you from using it, but the side panel even talks about being careful or disallowing the Boost power. It's an easy power to abuse.

So, don't take it personaly if I question it, and please try to explain it fully, including why you have it. In general, I have been consulting with Keia I have anything more than passing questions about balance, to get a second oppinion.
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Once we get the world started some more, perhaps we can expand to another opertunity, but at the moment, the Resolutes are it.

Oh, I wasn't thinking of making a "currently vigilante" char, but he'd have a history as one. That sounded like it was ok in that case, though. Perhaps I phrased the question badly. I defend myself by saying it was past midnight.

/Hellzon - one character coming up in a few days, then...
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Other than Body & Soul, are there other characters waiting for approval that I have not responded to in one way or another? I see a few in there that aren't approved, but either I haven't heard from them since giving feedback, or they haven't been submitted yet.


Is there anything else I need to do with Roughneck?
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Is there anything else I need to do with Roughneck?

I think I was waiting on a background. I'll dig through my e-mails and look over him again. Or reply to my last e-mail to you.

i can't get at the e-mail til tomorow though.
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I added an approved Rules content thread to tracking approved content.

I also added the Timeline Tracking thread, which I will update soon with the current timeline (which only has one new event beyond the initial one in the into thread at the moment)

Keia: Please sticky those threads.
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Okay, I am helping my girlfriend with making her character for Living Supers.

She wants a character who can Absorb the memories from anyone she touches.

She then has free access to thier memories and skills while at the same time erases there memories.

So far I have:
Mental Transform: Memories (extra: continuous, flaws: touch, permanent) 1/2pp per rank
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Mind Reading (extra: duration x2, flaws: limited: must Transform target, limited Probe only) 1pp per rank
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Mimic (memory based skills/feats all at once, extra: duration) 4pp per rank

I am not especially happy with the Mind Reading mechanic. Technically the person is still getting cumulative saves. Is there a better mechnic to "download" memories?
Also "memory" based skills and feats is touchy and requires a lot of GM call, if she touches a martial artist she wants the knowledge of his moves, doesnt have his physique or reflexes.
Do you think 3pp/ rank is fair?
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Okay, I am helping my girlfriend with making her character for Living Supers.

She wants a character who can Absorb the memories from anyone she touches.

She then has free access to thier memories and skills while at the same time erases there memories.

So far I have:
Mental Transform: Memories (extra: continuous, flaws: touch, permanent) 1/2pp per rank
linked to
Mind Reading (extra: duration x2, flaws: limited: must Transform target, limited Probe only) 1pp per rank
linked to
Mimic (memory based skills/feats all at once, extra: duration) 4pp per rank

I am not especially happy with the Mind Reading mechanic. Technically the person is still getting cumulative saves. Is there a better mechnic to "download" memories?
Also "memory" based skills and feats is touchy and requires a lot of GM call, if she touches a martial artist she wants the knowledge of his moves, doesnt have his physique or reflexes.
Do you think 3pp/ rank is fair?



I see a few problems with right off the bat...and I agree, it's a messy one to try to model. For starters, I don't think you can apply Permanent as a flaw to Mental Transform. Yes, it's a continuous power, but I think the flaw is only intended to be used for continuous powers that would be an inconvenience to the user of the power. In this case, it's not really inconvenient aside from the inability to undo the memory wipe. Maybe a 1pt drawback? Not sure on this one.

Another meta rules problem with permanently removing someone's memories...is that it's the equivalent of being able to permanently remove skill points, feats, and possibly even attack/defense bonus and powers. Which really starts to break the rules.

Second, the Mind Reading. Again, a really tough one, because Mind Reading only allows the user to "download/read" the equivalent of one question/answer per action - the biggest limiting gate on this power. You're essentially looking to bypass this restrction and gain access to every possible question/answer of the target in one shot. Either that, or you'll have to be sync'ed up with someone for a long time in order to get all the info downloaded to be equivalent to one skill.

The Mimic part might be the least problematic, as long as you stay within the cap on power points "mimicked."

I don't know what to suggest for the Mind Reading problem. Might be worth a posting to Kenson on the official site...to see how he'd recommend modeling what you're looking for.

Sorry I can't offer more positive or helpful suggestions. I'd rather do that than poke more holes in it, but I'm just not having much success in this case. Good luck.
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I see a few problems with right off the bat...and I agree, it's a messy one to try to model. For starters, I don't think you can apply Permanent as a flaw to Mental Transform. Yes, it's a continuous power, but I think the flaw is only intended to be used for continuous powers that would be an inconvenience to the user of the power. In this case, it's not really inconvenient aside from the inability to undo the memory wipe. Maybe a 1pt drawback? Not sure on this one.


I probably should have been clearer in the description. The Permanent Flaw actually was supposed to represent that she couldnt "shut off" the power, like Rogue and Cyclops.

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Second, the Mind Reading. Again, a really tough one, because Mind Reading only allows the user to "download/read" the equivalent of one question/answer per action - the biggest limiting gate on this power. You're essentially looking to bypass this restrction and gain access to every possible question/answer of the target in one shot. Either that, or you'll have to be sync'ed up with someone for a long time in order to get all the info downloaded to be equivalent to one skill.


This one just plain has me has me stumped, and I am usually pretty good at finding existing rules solutions to almost any power (a la Taskmaster/Echo )
Perhaps just a major bonus to Mind Reading? If it were my game I'd just decide on an appropriate cost and go with it, but since it's for the Living Supers, I want it to be as "official" as I can get it. I can still see her having to make rolls to sort out all the jumbled memories, but a Will DC for the target each time leaves a bad taste in my mouth.



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I don't know what to suggest for the Mind Reading problem. Might be worth a posting to Kenson on the official site...to see how he'd recommend modeling what you're looking for.

Sorry I can't offer more positive or helpful suggestions. I'd rather do that than poke more holes in it, but I'm just not having much success in this case. Good luck.


Maybe I'll give that a try. I figured I'd give the Living Supers Judges a shout out here first, just to give them fair warning.
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Warning is appreciated. I'll research it over the next day or so.
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The problem is that the memory download feature of your power does all at once what would take mindreading multiple full-round actions to multiple minutes to acheive (including the extra saves at decreasing difficulties) how quickly is the memory download suppoused to occur?

Mind Reading is a lasting power. Once the duration of the Mind Reading hits continuous, there are no further saves made (after the first).

I would do the power like this:
Memory touch:
Memory Alter: .5pp/rank
(B)2pp/rank
(F)Ranged x2 -2pp/rank

Mind Reading: .5pp/rank
(B)1pp/rank
(E)Duration x2 +2pp/rank
(F)Range x2 -2pp/rank
(F)Limited Probing Only -1pp/rank

Mimic: 3pp/rank (all memory skills & feats)
(B)5pp/rank
(E)Duration +1pp/rank
(F)Limited: Cannot mimic powers
(F)Limited: Cannot mimic attributes
(F)Limited: only skills & feats related to memory

The problem with mimic is that it used to have so many building blocks in 1E, now it doesn't you need to buy the 5pp/rank version then need to start hacking away to trim it down to what you want (just skills and feats, and only memory ones to boot).

Since the cost of linking powers if they cannot be used seperately is 0, I just didn't list it, You come out to 4 Power Points Per rank, to me, its one power without actually being linked, basically just building the power you want out of the effects availible, like you could in 1E. To make the power uncontrollable, you just tack on a drawback, and the worth of that would be up to the Judges.

The power would take a full round action to make, and grant the target a single will save (multiple saves of the same kind are all handled by 1 roll).
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Thanks Shalimar.

I will run it up the flag poll as a official proposal for a power.
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Question about the current campaign and Ice's Diplomacy Skill:

A -- This is my first online game and my first game with this system, so I apologize if my learning curve is a bit high.

B -- If there was a roll for her diplomacy, I must have missed it, so I apologize.

C -- As I don't know the system, the numbers are pretty meaningless to me. Can someone tell me, in the face of a successful skill role in her diplomacy what I should be comparing it to in my character, and more importantly, exactly what the degree of her success should mean in my character's reaction? I want to role-play it as authentically as possible, but if I don't know the system I won't be able to, esp. if I as a person, not a character, think that the idea isn't the best one.

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Its not that important, I was just trying to make the point for the future that Ice is very personable, much more so then I am, and that you shouldn't hold me against her, if that makes sense.
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If you want to make sure a skill is applied, you're best to mention it, as Shalimar did.

Different GMs run things differently, but I prefer to do all the rolling myself. So, it often means you won't see the rolls, only the effects (Example, some of the sblocks for specific characters have been the results of skills they have, where they gain a bit more information. It will become a bit more previlant with spot and listen checks like that)

Basicly, how I view diplomacy, is that you can have 5 people say the same thing, but depending on how good at diplomacy they are, they may come across differently. Anything from offensive and rude, to enlightened, eleoquent and friendly.

As for what your character, it's ultimately up to you what you chose to believe and how you view another PC. However, all that's specificly being mentioned to you is to keep in mind, the character is more diplomatic than he is, so if you don't like the way it was said, that's probably Shalimar more than the character. However, how you choose to react is up to you.
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Its not that important, I was just trying to make the point for the future that Ice is very personable, much more so then I am, and that you shouldn't hold me against her, if that makes sense.


That's fine. And Don't sell yourself short. I just want to be sure that I'm playing this the way it's supposed to go down. If there are rules I don't know about how to role play this, I want to make sure I know them.
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Since I'm not HUGE on the rules, I have a judgement question for our judges:

Since the idea with my character was that he was afforded the protection from harm because he wasn't "there" most of the time, not because he was necessarily intangible, can I actually phase people with my teleportation (a la Shalimar's post about us rocketing through the roof?) I'm okay with that if the answer is yes, I just wanted to make sure all my ducks were in a row before I tried something and got an evacuee turned into paste. I was envisioning his abilities more as he can lift things and they can teleport as he can, thus he would be moving rocks rather than pulling people through them.

Don't get me wrong...I'm okay being able to trap people in walls and such.

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Since I'm not HUGE on the rules, I have a judgement question for our judges:

Since the idea with my character was that he was afforded the protection from harm because he wasn't "there" most of the time, not because he was necessarily intangible, can I actually phase people with my teleportation (a la Shalimar's post about us rocketing through the roof?) I'm okay with that if the answer is yes, I just wanted to make sure all my ducks were in a row before I tried something and got an evacuee turned into paste. I was envisioning his abilities more as he can lift things and they can teleport as he can, thus he would be moving rocks rather than pulling people through them.

Don't get me wrong...I'm okay being able to trap people in walls and such.

Thanks.


Technically, no, you can't pass someone else through solid matter. That was an oversight on my part when helping work up your character. It would be an extra (Affects Others) on the Super Movement: Permeate power. Would only cost an couple extra points.

If the judges are lenient, they may allow a couple points of tweaking to add this power as it is in fitting with the original intent and description. (It explains the "strength" part of the "teleporting".)
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By the rules, the option to gain an extra with the extra effort rules doesn't exist anymore, but you can gain a power feat, such as alternate power. I would be willing to accept an alternate build of the same power that would allow you to do so if the build follow the usual rules of alternate power (same number of PP, cannot be use at the same time of the primary power, ect...).

In your case, you could go with Permate at rank 2 instead of 3, but with Affect Other(range: Touch). SO you would be able to pass at half your speed instead of full, and you would suffer from fatigue the round after the start of the use (but you can maintain the power for all the scene).
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Ok, yes I'm behind on approvals, but I'll try to get to it tonight. Hopefully I'll have everyone approved or at least comented by the end of this week.

Doesn't mean you can't stop in the ready room, but approval will prevent you from getting on a mission.

On that side, I'd like to see a few mission submitions, I think that will help kick things off. We have plenty of heroes waiting for a mission, (some still to be approved, but still), hopefully we can start getting them out there.
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FYI - Due to a medical emergancy in the family, I may be intermitently gone for the next few days. Sorry if this puts a damper on getting approved, I'll get to it as soon as possable.
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Is the whole forum dead?

I mean, if there is so low activity, there won't be much more recruiting. We just need to get it start well, to see it progress. I must tell I can't do too much the moral, as I am not willing to master a game myself...
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Forums around and people are here. Just busy and family stuff. I won't be running a game in the near term . . . possibly by the end of the year. <work and all>

Bront will be around for his game and I'm certain that others will join in.

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Sorry.

I was building a new computer and transfering files, then rebuilding my old one for my GF, and then rebuilding hers for her son, while working 2 16 hour shifts (left be a bit blank for running stuff), my grandmother is very sick, and my GF just got her arm put in a cast. Been kinda busy and preocupied. I've got more time, at the moment, and some vacation time coming up (just time off), so I should be a bit more active, and will get to approving more characters ASAP.

Keia, you're always welcome to help with approval as well, just send me your thoughts and I'll forward them. Not to put you on the spot or anything.

I think was we realy need is another game to get started. I'm sure the 3 other approvals would help (my bad), but I haven't seen an adventure float my way yet for approval (I'd likely ask the other 2 judges to OK it anyway so I can participate), so we need GMs to step up.

I had hoped the contest idea might help. I probably should advertize it a bit more though.
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I'd love to run something, but I've found that while I can play lots of characters, its hard for me to run more than 1 game. I currently have a LEW game so wont be able to run a LS game for quite some time, that and I am not really comfortable with the system yet. I got it just to join up here and have only read enough to create my character (who is possibly one of the most complex submitted I think).
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Been kinda busy and preocupied.

Understatement of the year...
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My post was pointed at no one... just wanted to shake a bit teh things because I feel like it was a bit sleepy here. Seems some people have awaken.
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Understatement of the year...

Of course, I might have time tonight if I hadn't forgotten my stuff at home...
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I'd like to thank DMAC for the picture of Gun Monkey he did (I have it in the Appearance SBlock at the moment, I'll probably shrink it down at some point as it's rather large).

http://www.darrencalvert.com/gmfinal.jpg is the link if anyone wants to peak as well.
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Really nice picture
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Oooh! I assume DMAC is some kind of professional artist? 'Cause that is really darn good.

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I'd like to thank DMAC for the picture of Gun Monkey he did (I have it in the Appearance SBlock at the moment, I'll probably shrink it down at some point as it's rather large).

http://www.darrencalvert.com/gmfinal.jpg is the link if anyone wants to peak as well.


Wow! He is much...cuter? then I imagined.

Very cool.
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Bront,

Schedule permitting, will we be seeing some action on "Quake you Booty" ?

Also...I may just be submitting a Mission...Just to let y'all know.

I think Living Supers is an awesome idea...I'd hate to see it fade away.

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