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04-10-06, 04:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bront
Approved and not in an adventure...
Bront - Gun Monkey [IN] , Psyren
Erekose13 - Body and Spirit [IN ]
Hellzon - Toad[IN]
hero4hire - Roughneck[IN]
Kylara - Kunoichi [?]
Rybaer - Pandora[IN]
Velmont - Sergeant [judge]
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I'm assuming everyone else got shut out of ENworld last night also so
I'm going to stick to my Monday start. Looks like the only two
potentials are Kylara and Erekose13. I expect Erekose will want to play
(he was looking forward to putting that shiny new manual to use). Is
Kylara still active on the board? I will wait one more day and then
we'll roll. I'll be boning up on the combat rules until then. Get those
five foot fly swatters out. 
Last edited by Salix : 04-10-06 at 05:44 AM.
Reason: changed Erekose' status to IN
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04-10-06, 04:51 AM
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I'm here 
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04-10-06, 07:11 AM
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It's a go.
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Looks like Kylara has been absent for awhile. I'll send the first post
tonight. If Kylara does happen to pop in before the end of tommorrow
night s/he will be welcome.
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04-10-06, 08:58 PM
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#364
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Yeah,
she went MIA awhile ago, got one e-mail saying she had computer
problems, and never heard from her again. She was a judge, but we're
doing ok with 3 at the moment, so we're all good.
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04-15-06, 03:17 AM
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By the way, some of you will be expected to learn how to fly one of these babies!”
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FYI, that is not the case. There are plenty of trained pilots available
to fly the Vigilant's specificly so players didn't need to learn how to
fly them.
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04-15-06, 04:48 AM
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Quote:
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FYI,
that is not the case. There are plenty of trained pilots available to
fly the Vigilant's specificly so players didn't need to learn how to
fly them.
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In The OOC part of the post I said it was just for flavor, although
that might be a good bonus (ie free) skill to have. I'm thinking
specifically of the Avengers where they all fly the quinjets.
Bront check out this site:Trunk Monkey
http://www.trunkmonkey.com/content/view/28/59/
I think of this guy as Gun Monkey's less evolved cousin. Hear these adds are big in the Portland area.
Help Wanted got a little quiet. Hope I didn't PO the players. The
action is about to get started with one more NPC intro along the way.
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04-16-06, 08:48 PM
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Bront- character submission changes made
Bront-
Hope you don't mind, but I just edited my character in the characyer submission thread instead of emailing you (I could always email you a sheet if need be). These are the things you wanted fixed:
Your notes:
-Fix formating in the powers (particularly Protection), and list the
alternate powers as costing net 1 with AP (see Gun Monkey or
Psyren).CHANGED MOST OF THE FORMATTING, BUT I didn't show the cost in
the AP since it seems like the cost should go against the power itself,
not the AP. (LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK)
-Add range and type to attacks- DONE
-Note in the feat what Improved Critical applies to.-DONE
-You can remove the legend, that's for your reference when creating the character.-DONE
Otherwise, looks good. Remember, super powers were non-existant in the
world prior to the millenium comet in 2000, so keep that in mind with a
background timeline.-PUT IN A LINE IN THE HISTORY TO SAY HARD LUCK WAS
COINCIDENTAL UNTIL COMET
Still some formatting to be done in character submission report, but
I'm tired of messing around with my slow internet connection today.
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04-16-06, 11:12 PM
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I
just need an e-mail of when to look at a character (So I know something
was changed, etc), the actual sheet need not be e-mailed
As for the power cost/AP cost, use other sheets as examples. Idealy,
you should list both the total power cost (so we can check), and the
net AP cost (To make sure we're aware it's an alternate power to what).
I tried to make both of my sheets good examples.
BTW, I may have to make a minor change to Gun Monkey, mostly due to a
ruling I strongly disagreed with that I disagree with even more after
reading. It shouldn't change the character, just how a particular power
is listed (His feat are prehensile, I origionaly took it as a 2 point
extra limb power (Technicaly up to 5 extra limbs) with a flaw of it not
being extra, just added powers to the current limbs, making it worth 1
point, but was told to take it as a Benifit feat, which is actualy for
social benifits and memberships.
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04-17-06, 01:06 AM
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Bront-
You'll notice that I shied away from probability control in the end. I
kind of wanted gremlin's bad luck ability to be more for flavor and
less for effect. Basically, he's an agile/strong martial artist who has
a neat quirk.
El jefe- Welcome to LS! Have you played mutants and masterminds a lot in the past?
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04-17-06, 04:48 AM
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some ideas on prehensile feet build
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bront
BTW,
I may have to make a minor change to Gun Monkey, mostly due to a ruling
I strongly disagreed with that I disagree with even more after reading.
It shouldn't change the character, just how a particular power is
listed (His feat are prehensile, I origionaly took it as a 2 point
extra limb power (Technicaly up to 5 extra limbs) with a flaw of it not
being extra, just added powers to the current limbs, making it worth 1
point, but was told to take it as a Benifit feat, which is actualy for
social benifits and memberships.
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Bront- I don't want to undercut our character judges' authority but I
posed the question of how people would build the prehensile feet over
at the Atomic Think Tank site. Pretty interesting responses over there:
http://www.atomicthinktank.com/viewtopic.php?t=16190 . It looks like a few of these might be a little cleaner than Benefit, especially given OGM's freak of nature status.
PS get a chance to check out trunk monkey yet? if you have a fast
connection its probably worth your time (at least I think they're funny
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04-17-06, 05:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Salix
El jefe- Welcome to LS! Have you played mutants and masterminds a lot in the past?
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Thanks.
I haven't played superhero stuff in years. M&M didn't even exist back then.
The 2nd edition book that my local gaming shop promised me would be in
by about Thanksgiving? Just got it the other day...you know the rest.
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04-17-06, 01:18 PM
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I
would've just had it Additional Limbs. The in-game mechanics are
exactly the same. A flaw wouldn't limit it to at least half
effectiveness. The fact that his Additional Limbs are Prehensile Feet
is just Flavor.
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04-17-06, 11:24 PM
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He
doesn't actualy have the extra limbs though, the only extra one is his
tail that is paid for elsewhere. He's not getting the full benifit of
having 2 extra arms, just the hands part.
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04-18-06, 01:53 AM
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In
Game Mechanics how does this really differ? Having Legs and Feet that
can act as Arms and Hands is just as useful as an Extra Pair of Arms
and Hands. I disagree that he really wouldn't get the full benefit. He
can still open a can of soda while typing on the internet.  Mechanically I see no difference just a difference in "Descriptors" if you will.
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04-18-06, 01:55 PM
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Well,
I guess I could roll the tail and legs into one power (I have them
seperated), since you get 5 extra limbs at rank 2, he's not going to
need them all anyway.
The end result is it shouldn't cost more than it currently does, so I just need to figure out how to roll it into something.
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04-19-06, 10:23 AM
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I agree that the cost is fine. I think just having the Power at 2 was fine. Covering all of his "Limbs"
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04-19-06, 12:53 PM
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Why not:
Extra Limb 1 (Tail) [1 PP/rank, Cost 1]
Extra Limb 2 (Legs) [1 PP/ 2 ranks, Cost 1]
Flaw: Limited - Make existing limb prehensive
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04-19-06, 03:14 PM
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That's what I origionaly had, it ends up costing the same.
The problem with Extra limb, is that there is no benifit beond the
first prehensile limb, and little benifit beyond the first balancing
limb, other than the ability to simply just hold more things. However,
there is realy no reason to ever buy the power at level... 10 for
example (I believe that is 10 million extra limbs)
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04-19-06, 03:24 PM
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1000 but point taken... 
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04-19-06, 03:43 PM
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All
depend if you use the other power that allow you to separate your limb
from yourself. Imagine you have a thousand arms and you can split the
hand of each to habe some Things (like in Adams family) walking around  But alone, yeap, not much interest.
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04-19-06, 07:12 PM
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Or
if you're a great grappler (since each grappled victim takes up one
hand, see Improved Grapple). But it's true, there's a diminishing
return beyond the 100:th limb or so. 
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04-23-06, 05:47 PM
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Found this regarding Additional Limbs.
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04-23-06, 06:40 PM
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Quote:
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Found this regarding Additional Limbs.
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Nice find.That should help Bront. When the simian gunslinger gets back I can resolve the action in Help Wanted.
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04-24-06, 03:41 AM
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Cool.
I still should create a character with 20 ranks in it, just because. (2.5 Million Limbs! Where's the arosol deoderant!?!)
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04-24-06, 04:47 AM
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2.5 million limbs? Wasn't that the being that was the villain in Men In Black II?
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04-24-06, 05:22 AM
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El
Jefe- I just read your new character, very cool. I have an adventure in
the pipeline that will be perfect for your new character (but its at
least a little bit away right now).
Bront- what did I have left to do to get Gremlin approved?
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04-24-06, 06:48 AM
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How many people are available for a new adventure?
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04-24-06, 07:31 AM
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Quote:
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How many people are available for a new adventure?
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Sergeant, Psyren -approved
Gremlin, Avatar- pending approval
I know one other player who will be getting the book soon and putting a character together
I could be missing a few, but Help Wanted cleared the deck except for
Sergeant as far as I know. In terms of timing may 9 when i get back
from FBX would be better for me (although that shouldn't affect the
start of a new mission). I'm sure El Jefe is anxious to start playing.
Hope your two adventures are going better than what if?
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04-24-06, 01:32 PM
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Quote:
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I'm sure El Jefe is anxious to start playing. Hope your two adventures are going better than what if?
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I think most of the anxiousness faded sometime in January. But it would be nice to get approved and get going.
And I shudder to think of what kind of adventure would be perfect for my character.
"Ah! As you can see, this sarcophagus is from the twelfth dynasty,
and...excuse me while I shoot this...[gunfire]...Ok, now note how the
cover has this striated pattern all around the edge...oh, drat...[more
gunfire]...Now, if we can continue without interruption..."
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04-24-06, 03:31 PM
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Is Gremlin up and ready for me to look at again? I never got an e-mail about it.
Worst case, tuesday night for me to look at approval.
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04-25-06, 03:22 AM
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Quote:
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Is Gremlin up and ready for me to look at again? I never got an e-mail about it.
Worst case, tuesday night for me to look at approval.
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Sorry,
I need to take a look at what I fixed and didn't fix last round. At the
very least I need to fix the APs and how points are accounted for. I'll
send an email, but probably not before Wed. I'm looking closely at Move
By Action feat, after seeing what Toad wants to do with it.
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04-27-06, 08:20 AM
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Bront-
Gremlin is as clean as possible. I think he can wait until I get back,
but if you get time... Also, any chance of seeing "GM credits" a la
LEW.
El Jefe- Let's just say there is an archeologist NPC that Avatar could interact with.
H4H and Velmont- What's going on with What if? Is it going to keep going or do you think it will die on the vine?
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04-27-06, 08:48 AM
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Salix, I take it you ended up not changing your powers? I don't see much changed.
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04-27-06, 01:10 PM
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Honestly, I can't tell, but doesn't smell good.
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04-27-06, 06:48 PM
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Quote:
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I'm looking closely at Move By Action feat, after seeing what Toad wants to do with it.
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Hehe. Move-by-attack and Spring Attack rolled into one. And you get to
jump/fly/run up to the Machine Of Doom (Trademarked. Don't try it at
home.), turn it off and be gone in one round. Fun for the whole family,
just add a decent movement power.
Seriously, I'm learning too. I'm seeing so much potential for tweaking... 
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04-27-06, 09:34 PM
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Honestly, I can't tell, but doesn't smell good.
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Yeah...Doesn't look promising.
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04-28-06, 03:20 AM
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Quote:
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Honestly, I can't tell, but doesn't smell good.
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What are you refering to?
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04-28-06, 09:29 AM
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Quote:
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What are you refering to?
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Velmont, H4H, and I are in a game on the general
(non-LS) board. It seems to not be going anywhere (big pauses between
our first two posts). Its an alternate marvel universe game (like the
What If comics). Look for me to post to Help Wanted Friday night. I'm
still up working on work related deadlines.
BTW- I did change the powers, but the changes were very small. All the
Alternate powers for luck control went down a rank when I charged the
point for the alternate power in the AP itself. Luck control itself
went up one rank as a result. Not really the greatest build, but
Probability Control really didn't do it for me at the low number of
ranks I could purchase. He should be a pretty fun character to play,
although he overlaps with Toad a bit.
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04-28-06, 09:39 AM
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Cool,
just making sure. Luck Control didn't seem quite right given what you
were trying to do, but it works. I'll thumb through it and e-mail you
comments.
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Hey
there everybody! Just got the M&M2 rulebook finally (Happy Birthday
to me, Happy Birthday to me!) and I have a couple questions about the
rules as I'm sitting here trying to make up a character.
Right now, my question is regarding the Alternate Power feat. Am I
reading it right that you pay the 1 point for the feat and get powers
up to or equal (but not exceeding) the point and power levels of
previous powers that just can't be used at the same time?
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